Sad thing about all those kids that dress and act 'gothic' persay as Whocares said have probably only listened to about 10 emo songs in there life. Everyone is saying Emo is the new thing but in reality Emo started a really long time ago.

I really dont see why the way someone dresses is of any concern to anyone else. So what if someone has a "goth" style or "emo" style and hasn't listened to alot of that particular genre (the whole genre labeling thing being pretty pointless too, but I wont get into that). So now someone has to be an expert on the genre before they can get into that specific type of music? seriously, listen to the music you want, dress how you want, and let others do the same. stop putting so much energy into what other people are doing and start putting it into your own life, and relating to other people rather than critisizing them.

Ok i really hope that wasnt directed towards me only because i have to be the furthest thing from stereotypical. I could really care less how people dress or what music they listen to. I was just trying to point out the fact that some people are 'posers' persay but not that i dont like them.

^ no, not neccesarily directed at you, but the poser thing brings up another issue. Again, I fail to see how "posers" are bad. First off, how does someone get labeled a poser? and second, why is it bad? if someone is buying merchandise, it's only helping the band, so wouldn't you as a fan be happy?

Alright, i agree with you guys almost completly, ive gotten over this.... i think it was just that no one liked the kind of music i do like 6 months ago, and all of the sudden everyone liked it, i think it was just kinda a shock to me so i started labeling , it is good for the bands and a lot of good music will come from the popularity, so sorry if i offended anyone..... but man, you guys need to voice your opinions a little better i wasnt looking to be made fun of like most of you did i didnt think i was being an ******* by making the thread, but maybe a little selfish thanks for making me feel like **** guys :)

one more thing you guys arent remembering. different areas label similar things totally contrastingly. for one of you out there, "emo" may be defined as "pop-punk" to other people in other countries/cities or whatever. you guys could be describing a group or individual from your school or whatever to the board and everybody could be visualizing something totally different, perhaps even themselves. you could be labelling them as "preps" or "sell-outs" whereas you or another member may have been labelled as that yourself/themself. thats why the prospect of labelling is so preposterous. in each different area, there is a different social structure/basic belief. for example hXe or sXe might to some of you be basic "punk" or emo or whatever language, but other people have never heard of it. even from my brief chats to ally (emochick) on msn showed me that we have blatantly different morals and beliefs in the same topics as each other. now, shes in montreal canada and im in melbourne australia. both of us, it could be presumed, are in some way a part of our local punk scenes but the structure of those respective scenes are in no way identicle and hence we have completely contrasting views on basically all things.

^ nicely said. I've said in a few other threads that labeling music is really quite useless. Music is simply what it is, and all you really have to define it are your own personal opinions and reactions to it, so universal labels are really impossible to go by, because no one will ever agree on specific, set boundaries within those labels.

nobody agrees, hence the debates on this site. but people have to learn to accept other peoples opinions and not attack them personally for their beliefs.....not nameing any names

Thats exactly what i have been trying to say, but there are people that are stubborn and have a certain mind-set, and don't listen to anyone elses opinions.