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CAPTAIN CAVEMAN 06-11-2009 11:37 PM
emos will bait your children and give them AIDS

CAPTAIN CAVEMAN 06-11-2009 11:38 PM
to quote a guy on slsk years ago:

"EMO IS PARA PUTAS
EMO IS PARA PERROS
PARA PURO GAY"

Farfisa 06-12-2009 01:16 AM
Emo was a term first coined by MTV... srsly.

ChiliColdBlood 06-12-2009 09:51 AM
Haha, I'm so sick of arguments about what is or isn't "emo".

To get back on topic: Yeah, screamo is dying. Most bands who were "screamo" have broken up or progressed to do more interesting stuff. The popular bands in the "scene" seem to be metalcore bands and that weird vocoder-pop stuff crap that's getting on Warped these days.

Probably the only band I still listen to from back when I liked that style is Alexisonfire. I guess you can still call them "screamo" since there's singing and screaming involved, but they come off more as a rock band to me. Plus, their sound has evolved so much in the past few years. I love 'em.

Rubber 06-12-2009 12:36 PM
yeah I agree, basically the only good screamo bands left are alexisonfire and chiodos.

Hesher 06-12-2009 06:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rubber (Post 680411)
yeah I agree, basically the only good screamo bands left are alexisonfire and chiodos.
Ha. Alexisonfire sucks. And I used to be huge into them. Another one of those "first two album" bands before they started playing bigger venues and writing generic chord progression bore-tunes. I was nursing this hope that Young Cardinals would be decent but the single was sadly terrible imo. And if you daresay that Crisis was a good album I will pillage your ass with a longship.

Alfred 06-12-2009 06:51 PM
I liked Crisis, but I believe it was inferior to their first two albums.

I like what I'm hearing these days, but their music could really lose some of that studio polish I think.

Hesher 06-14-2009 04:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfred (Post 680636)
I liked Crisis, but I believe it was inferior to their first two albums.

I like what I'm hearing these days, but their music could really lose some of that studio polish I think.
How do you mean about the studio polish? I think their songwriting has just tanked. Plus the vocals have gone downhill as well. I have to admit that it may be partially that I just grew out of them. I listen to what I consider more "complex" music these days, although I still get a kick out of the first two albums once in a while.

crash_override 06-14-2009 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Hesher (Post 680633)
Ha. Alexisonfire sucks. And I used to be huge into them. Another one of those "first two album" bands before they started playing bigger venues and writing generic chord progression bore-tunes. I was nursing this hope that Young Cardinals would be decent but the single was sadly terrible imo. And if you daresay that Crisis was a good album I will pillage your ass with a longship.
Ughh, you are cavemans friend. No doubt about that, and don't for a second think thats a good thing. alexisonfire is a good enough group who started off with humble yet solid beginnings. I think they are one of the most forward thining groups in their genre, and for that they should be commended.

Hesher 06-14-2009 04:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by crash_override (Post 681472)
Ughh, you are cavemans friend. No doubt about that, and don't for a second think thats a good thing. alexisonfire is a good enough group who started off with humble yet solid beginnings. I think they are one of the most forward thining groups in their genre, and for that they should be commended.
I loved their beginnings. I listened to them religiously for several years, attended a ton of shows, own both first albums and a 7" single which is signed by Dallas Green, AND I actually interviewed him for the youth newspaper I worked for in high school. They WERE one of the most down-to-earth and accessible groups in the genre, until they released an album that sucked and started playing crappy shows. You didn't read what I wrote very well.

crash_override 06-14-2009 04:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Hesher (Post 681480)
I loved their beginnings. I listened to them religiously for several years, attended a ton of shows, own both first albums and a 7" single which is signed by Dallas Green, AND I actually interviewed him for the youth newspaper I worked for in high school. They WERE one of the most down-to-earth and accessible groups in the genre, until they released an album that sucked and started playing crappy shows. You didn't read what I wrote very well.
I think I read what you wrote very well, you think their songwriting skills have gone to ****, and the vocals have gone downhill. I know how you could be disappointed by this kind of change as I have experienced it several times myself (being part of the original Indianapolis metalcore scene) bands making it big tend to lose touch of their roots very quickly. That's where you lose respect for them, but to say Crisis is an all around bad album doesn't exactly sit that well with me. I happen to like quite a few tracks from that album.

Although I do agree that they won't ever surpass their debut album in terms of originalilty and creativity.

Hesher 06-14-2009 04:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by crash_override (Post 681482)
I think I read what you wrote very well, you think their songwriting skills have gone to ****, and the vocals have gone downhill. I know how you could be disappointed by this kind of change as I have experienced it several times myself (being part of the original Indianapolis metalcore scene) bands making it big tend to lose touch of their roots very quickly. That's where you lose respect for them, but to say Crisis is an all around bad album doesn't exactly sit that well with me. I happen to like quite a few tracks from that album.

Although I do agree that they won't ever surpass their debut album in terms of originalilty and creativity.
Well then, we can civilly agree to disagree. Put it back in your pants. :yeah:

bardonodude 06-14-2009 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Rubber (Post 680411)
yeah I agree, basically the only good screamo bands left are alexisonfire and chiodos.
I couldnt have said it better myself lol

acceptableviolence 06-16-2009 07:16 AM
idk blessthefall and escape the fate are awesome skramz

CrAbY 06-16-2009 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by gottaSCREM (Post 318863)
LISTEN darling Underoath never started out as Metal cause I grew up near them in Florida and heard them when no one else ever did...If you think they sound ****ty tell that to the thousands of fans they have. Number one I know more about Screamo than you cause I grew up listening to it
U2 has thousands of fans and they are ****ty. So what does this quote mean? lol


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Originally Posted by BFMV for life (Post 601297)
dude how the hell do u think underoath is ****ty?
one of the best metal bands ever!!!!

i agree with gottaSCREM

Coming from someone with that screen name? BAHA. Listen to good metal. Daylight Dies. Best ever. It's not all thrashy rip my nuts off bullcrap like most metal. ex: UnderOATH









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Originally Posted by gottaSCREM (Post 318927)
If I name more than 10 or even 15 we need a place for Grunge. Not all grunge sucks what about Nirvana. Don't you at least like them?

Nirvana sucks. Kurt blew his head of....



































































































































and no one but you cares

amplific 06-16-2009 07:39 AM
nirvana ruled, get your head out of your ass

CrAbY 06-16-2009 07:47 AM
LOL. Nirvana ruled, but after Kurt blew his **** off the guitarist formed another yet terrible band called the Foo Fighters.

amplific 06-16-2009 07:49 AM
those first two Foo Fighter cds are ALSO amazing. there's been solid songs since, but nothing as consistently awesome as the Roswell album and the Colour and the Shape

CrAbY 06-16-2009 07:51 AM
It all is rubbish. They took a good thing that happened to Nirvana and turned it into the Foo Fighters. Dude. Even the band name sucks.

amplific 06-16-2009 07:55 AM
dude...Footos? the Fresh Fighter? How could you hate!

CrAbY 06-16-2009 07:58 AM
Because it sucks.

amplific 06-16-2009 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by CrAbY (Post 682976)
Because it sucks.
naaaah

CrAbY 06-16-2009 08:03 AM
Yeah. Ya know I like to sing about how my life is a drag and then go shoot heroin back stage.

amplific 06-16-2009 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by CrAbY (Post 682984)
Yeah. Ya know I like to sing about how my life is a drag and then go shoot heroin back stage.
weird, i didnt know foo fighters covered pg 99

CrAbY 06-16-2009 08:05 AM
Just because I listen to pg:99?

acceptableviolence 06-16-2009 08:06 AM
foo fighters also do a mean cover of some natures catch no plagues by saetia

FaSho 06-16-2009 08:11 AM
There's always debate about what bands are screamo and what bands aren't. We Fly Our Kites at Night or a screamo band right?

amplific 06-16-2009 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by CrAbY (Post 682987)
Just because I listen to pg:99?
no im just saying thats more of pg 99 lyrical subjects then foo fighters

CrAbY 06-16-2009 08:23 AM
mmk

Hesher 06-16-2009 09:50 AM
Dave Grohl, the drummer for Nirvana, started the Foo Fighters in which he plays guitar.

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Originally Posted by acceptableviolence (Post 682942)
idk blessthefall and escape the fate are awesome skramz
Neither of those bands are skramz.

Urbandictionary:
"1. skramz
A new term for the screamo/emo bands of the 90s, or anythign that is REAL screamo/emo. I'm not sure if the term is supposed to be taken seriously or not, but it's there. Possibly created in revolt of the ****ty 'new' emo bands and self-proclaimed 'emo' kids.
Not skramz: Emery, MCR, Saosin etc

Skramz: I Hate Myself, Hot Cross, Raein, Saetia, Orchid etc "

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Originally Posted by CrAbY (Post 682946)
Coming from someone with that screen name? BAHA. Listen to good metal. Daylight Dies. Best ever. It's not all thrashy rip my nuts off bullcrap like most metal. ex: UnderOATH
Daylight Dies is terrible, and Underoath wouldn't know thrash if it shoved metal up their ass, which is a reference you don't get because you have terrible, terrible taste and no respect for history.

Quote:
Originally Posted by CrAbY (Post 682970)
It all is rubbish. They took a good thing that happened to Nirvana and turned it into the Foo Fighters. Dude. Even the band name sucks.
Kurt Cobain was more creative than any band you can probably name, and since you obviously know nothing about them you haven't any basis to judge.

The Foo Fighters and U2 do suck though, so we agree on that.

amplific 06-16-2009 09:57 AM
screw all of you im going to go listen to everlong and cry

Stone Birds 06-16-2009 10:16 AM
if it makes you feel better CrAbY has been banned

bardonodude 06-16-2009 10:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by amplific (Post 683058)
screw all of you im going to go listen to everlong and cry
good idea

anticipation 06-16-2009 11:00 AM
intelligence: a dying concept?

amplific 06-16-2009 11:09 AM
why did Craby get banned?

I did listen to everlong, it was good

Hesher 06-16-2009 02:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by anticipation (Post 683102)
intelligence: A dying concept?
+1

Stone Birds 06-16-2009 02:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by anticipation (Post 683102)
intelligence: a dying concept?
intelligence created all of those words so no.

alliteration 06-16-2009 05:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by amplific (Post 683106)
why did Craby get banned?

I did listen to everlong, it was good

I don't get it. To be honest, I always thought that FF were one of the better mainstream rock bands that you'd hear on the radio. Plus, they had members of SDRE, so that has to score some cred right there. Seriously, though, The Colour and the Shape I still think is a good listen. Come on, do people really think that FF are as bad as Creed or Nickelback?

bardonodude 06-16-2009 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by alliteration (Post 683427)
I don't get it. To be honest, I always thought that FF were one of the better mainstream rock bands that you'd hear on the radio. Plus, they had members of SDRE, so that has to score some cred right there. Seriously, though, The Colour and the Shape I still think is a good listen. Come on, do people really think that FF are as bad as Creed or Nickelback?
i agree, foo fighters are pretty decent compared to the plethora of buttrock bands parading the radio

acceptableviolence 06-20-2009 09:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hesher (Post 683045)
Dave Grohl, the drummer for Nirvana, started the Foo Fighters in which he plays guitar.



Neither of those bands are skramz.

Urbandictionary:
"1. skramz
A new term for the screamo/emo bands of the 90s, or anythign that is REAL screamo/emo. I'm not sure if the term is supposed to be taken seriously or not, but it's there. Possibly created in revolt of the ****ty 'new' emo bands and self-proclaimed 'emo' kids.
Not skramz: Emery, MCR, Saosin etc

Skramz: I Hate Myself, Hot Cross, Raein, Saetia, Orchid etc "



Daylight Dies is terrible, and Underoath wouldn't know thrash if it shoved metal up their ass, which is a reference you don't get because you have terrible, terrible taste and no respect for history.



Kurt Cobain was more creative than any band you can probably name, and since you obviously know nothing about them you haven't any basis to judge.

The Foo Fighters and U2 do suck though, so we agree on that.


way to use urban dictionary! woo!


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