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Old 03-09-2007, 12:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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/sigh. JFAC does not try to be tough guy. At all.

I tire of this discussion.
Once again, agree to disagree.
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Old 03-09-2007, 12:43 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I tire of this discussion.
Once again, agree to disagree.
No. You're saying At The Gates is a metalcore band. That's simply not a fact.

And I view "toug guy" and "posi" hardcore as being descriptors, not actual genres.
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Old 03-09-2007, 02:07 PM   #3 (permalink)
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No. You're saying At The Gates is a metalcore band. That's simply not a fact.

And I view "toug guy" and "posi" hardcore as being descriptors, not actual genres.
Correct me if I'm mistaken, but I don't believe I ever said AtG was a metalcore outfit; I said their progressive breed of melodeath pioneered the metalcore sound.

'Posicore' is a style, but I'd say 'tough guy' is a genre. 'Posicore' is a set of ideals, and is evident in the lyrics and lifestyle of a band, not the music. 'Tough guy' is a genre, because it possesses its own unique sound. Compare the sound of Throwdown or Remembering Never to As I Lay Dying or All That Remains: the difference is easy to hear.
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Old 03-09-2007, 02:53 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Correct me if I'm mistaken, but I don't believe I ever said AtG was a metalcore outfit
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I do not, and will never, consider Black Dahlia as anything but metalcore. And yes, they sound like At the Gates.
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'Posicore' is a style, but I'd say 'tough guy' is a genre. 'Posicore' is a set of ideals, and is evident in the lyrics and lifestyle of a band, not the music.
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Tough guy most certainly is a genre: it's a subgenre of metalcore, heavily influenced by punk ideals
Believe it or not, they are both styles of music.
Also, lyrics are a part of a band's music.
Lifestyle isn't necessarily a part of a band's music, but "tough guy" lifestyle is inherent in "tough guy" music, just like "posicore" mentality shows in "posicore" music.


Bleh, this is getting boring.
Off topic: I downloaded Burned Mind by Wolf Eyes, great album.
I also dl'd Alec Empire vs. Merzbow Live 1998 in NYC.
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