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spearmint 10-26-2004 02:57 PM

Why does it matter?
 
Why does it matter so much to so many people whether a band gets popular. Like suddenly they're not very good because other people like them...Is it not about the music they make rather than how "sold out" there show was etc etc, like if lots of other people like them doesn't that mean they're good? I don't understand. Why suddenly change what you listen to, because you want to be different or something?? Like loads of people change to be different form everyone else, when al thouse people are just being the same as each other, thus like everyone else...Why does it matter so much to be so "different" or individual. Can't you be yourself like what you like and if lots of other people like it...who cares

franscar 10-26-2004 03:19 PM

The only difference I can think of that affects me in any way is that generally when bands I like become more popular, they charge more for tickets, and they play bigger venues where the view and the sound are nowhere near as good. I'd never stop loving a band simply because of that reason though, I think anyone that does has some pretty serious problems they need to address really.

Social_14_Enemy 10-26-2004 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by spearmint
Why does it matter so much to so many people whether a band gets popular. Like suddenly they're not very good because other people like them...Is it not about the music they make rather than how "sold out" there show was etc etc, like if lots of other people like them doesn't that mean they're good? I don't understand. Why suddenly change what you listen to, because you want to be different or something?? Like loads of people change to be different form everyone else, when al thouse people are just being the same as each other, thus like everyone else...Why does it matter so much to be so "different" or individual. Can't you be yourself like what you like and if lots of other people like it...who cares

Tell that to david frost lol....but i do agree with you...it shouldnt matter.... listen to what sounds good to you.....it doesnt really matter if somebody likes them or not...its if you like em that matters

Pimp_racer 10-26-2004 04:42 PM

what i hate is when a band changes how they sounds to become good. like good charlotte i liked some of there music before they became mainstream. but they changed to become liked by every little kid and every girl in the country. which is music taht idont like.

spearmint 10-27-2004 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Social_14_Enemy
Tell that to david frost lol....


Haha...Agreed, funny how he hasn't actually replied yet... :p:

marissa 10-27-2004 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Pimp_racer
what i hate is when a band changes how they sounds to become good. like good charlotte i liked some of there music before they became mainstream. but they changed to become liked by every little kid and every girl in the country. which is music taht idont like.


When was good charlotte never mainstream? :\ I'd really like to hear that. I dislike good charlotte...but i'd still find it interesting to hear it.

Thrice 10-27-2004 09:15 AM

How does that have anything to do with David Frost?

Nu Metal=Un Metal 10-27-2004 09:31 AM

It matters if the band was about not selling out and then they're all over MTV. When a band makes songs to get played on MTV, they have to change their sound in some way. Some bands that I like have changed their sound to reach more people and that doesn't bother me. It bothers me, when people discover a "new" band that actually has been around for a decade or more and don't realize that they have other albums.
I hate those people that only like the newer stuff over the older stuff. IMO, if you like a band, you should like just about everything by that band.

Clutch. This band was awesome back in '92 and '93. Then they changed their sound.
I haven't bought any of their albums since.

franscar 10-27-2004 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Nu Metal=Un Metal
IMO, if you like a band, you should like just about everything by that band.

Why? Some great bands just make a crappy record, it happens. Doesn't mean the rest of their stuff sounds bad. I'm not going to judge Led Zeppelin from Coda when I, II, III, IV and Physical Graffiti all exist, and are incredible records.

Thrice 10-27-2004 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Nu Metal=Un Metal
IMO, if you like a band, you should like just about everything by that band.

Clutch. This band was awesome back in '92 and '93. Then they changed their sound.
I haven't bought any of their albums since.

Is this not contradictive?

David Frost 10-27-2004 02:29 PM

LOL!!!!!


i dont like bands that become crappy when they get big. i dont like bands that get crappy and dont get big. i dont like bands that were good when they were big then got crappy.

i dont like crappy bands.

Thrice 10-27-2004 02:40 PM

I knew you were gunna like that one.

jesus 10-27-2004 05:20 PM

Sure, when a band i like a lot gets a lot more attention, i'll admit it bugs me, but they're still a band I like, and as long as a band doesn't change their sound then I will always like them.

spearmint 10-27-2004 05:23 PM

....how would you define a crappy band?

Hmmmmm, let's not get into an argument about people or whatever I'm talking music. Tell me what(not who), to you, is a crappy band?

jesus 10-27-2004 05:25 PM

a band that plays music that is crappy.....

Pimp_racer 10-27-2004 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by marissa
When was good charlotte never mainstream? :\ I'd really like to hear that. I dislike good charlotte...but i'd still find it interesting to hear it.

um some songs like waldorf worldwide i think is the name? um god y cant i think of the names to some of there songs. well i cant think now thrice will u help me out here?

jesus 10-27-2004 05:46 PM

last year i liked GC quite a bit, i would also like to know, because i want to hear what they sounded like before they went mainstream. The guys are always wearing band **** from like, wicked good bands, so before they went all MTV, were they any better?

Thrice 10-27-2004 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Pimp_racer
um some songs like waldorf worldwide i think is the name? um god y cant i think of the names to some of there songs. well i cant think now thrice will u help me out here?

we used to listen to **** like motivate me, little things **** like that.

Thrice 10-27-2004 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jesus
last year i liked GC quite a bit, i would also like to know, because i want to hear what they sounded like before they went mainstream. The guys are always wearing band **** from like, wicked good bands, so before they went all MTV, were they any better?

i havent heard any pre-mtv stuff, but i do like the early mtv stages like the songs i listed above.

jesus 10-27-2004 05:56 PM

yeah i used to like those songs a ton, specially little things, but i overlistened to it...i only liked good charlotte for a little while then i sorta grew out of them.

David Frost 10-27-2004 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jesus
a band that plays music that is crappy.....


marissa 10-27-2004 06:56 PM

hm, yeah...little things didnt bother me much, but motivate me did. my sister wrecks a lot of music just because she over listens to it, like...once ever 5 minutes. so maybe thats why it bugs me when bands get all popular, you hear it too much and you know you'll hear it too much, like on much music and stuff.

covle 10-28-2004 05:31 AM

theres not much point to this thread. nobody's going to say "i want to be underground, i dont like popular bands, im too cool for that."

spearmint 10-28-2004 11:59 AM

sorry. Obviously, I was wondering why people use "cause they're 'pop' or 'mainstream'" as an excuse not to like them. And 'Jesus' and 'david frost' that was exellent you totally filled me in on what crappy music is thankyou so much, there's no point in descussing your views, cause you don't...discuss that is

David frost name me a band that you like that is popular? or one you liked before it was popular surly there must be at least on good band that's popular otherwise they wouldn't be popular?

Social_14_Enemy 10-28-2004 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by spearmint
Haha...Agreed, funny how he hasn't actually replied yet... :p:

lol yea...the first few days I had joind this site he was already on my back about the music I listened to!lol we made like 10 pages just arguing...he made like 10 people mad in one pose lol....it was funny

David Frost 10-28-2004 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by spearmint
sorry. Obviously, I was wondering why people use "cause they're 'pop' or 'mainstream'" as an excuse not to like them. And 'Jesus' and 'david frost' that was exellent you totally filled me in on what crappy music is thankyou so much, there's no point in descussing your views, cause you don't...discuss that is

David frost name me a band that you like that is popular? or one you liked before it was popular surly there must be at least on good band that's popular otherwise they wouldn't be popular?


Modest Mouse
The Mars Volta
Thursday (being one of those bands that was good and now isnt)
Tool
Boysetsfire
At The Drive In
A Perfect Circle
The Cure
Deftones
Denali
Ani Difranco
The Postal Service

let me know if thats enough, i could gather some more up if you please.

marissa 10-28-2004 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by David Frost
Modest Mouse
The Mars Volta

yeha, im upset about those bands getting all popular on our asses. I used to listen to them a lot, and now im sick of it because its been played on much music 1000 times a week. meh, ill live.

spearmint 10-28-2004 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by marissa
yeha, im upset about those bands getting all popular on our asses. I used to listen to them a lot, and now im sick of it because its been played on much music 1000 times a week. meh, ill live.

erm, you don't have to listen to it... :rolleyes:

David...was that a list of bands you like or not? oh and you have yet to tell me what YOU think 'crappy' music is...Like I don't care what bands you think are crappy unless you have a clear reason WHY they're crappy otherwise you're just one of those peope who, erm...annoy me, some :)

David Frost 10-28-2004 04:45 PM

i dont have a specific set of standards for what sucks. i listen to a band, if they suck, they suck. question, why am i the only one having to explain myself about the music i hate? seems kind of lame to me.

by the way, i like those bands... alot.

franscar 10-28-2004 05:05 PM

Mars Volta were never not popular over here. As soon as the Drive-In split everyone who liked them was waiting for the members to get their records out.

The Cure huh? *goes off to put Lullaby on*

spearmint 10-28-2004 05:09 PM

Ok, I'll generalize it then...I don't like it when ANYONE says they dislike a band without giving reasons WHY...It may seem lame to you but...you're the only person who has really ever (to me) disliked a band cause they're popular or whatever, and I'm not arguing with you or whatever cause that's what you might say and I don't want to make an argument out of a discussion, which is what it is, I'm not asking you to 'explain yourself' just wondering is all...I think you've talken what I said totally the wrong way

David Frost 10-28-2004 05:17 PM

ahh, so the truth comes out! you made this whole entire post because of me!! tell me, what band did i say i didnt like because they were popular, id really like to know.

spearmint 10-28-2004 05:18 PM

No

spearmint 10-28-2004 05:26 PM

sorry, I'll explain...I said only you because you seem like the only one on this site (you told me to go to the 'pop' forum thus saying my music was pop...popular and said it wasn't very good. I don't spent too much time on here to be honest and If other people do say stuff I'm sorry...I was reffering to people over where I live who whenever they dislike a band the first thing said about the band is "they're always played and everyone thinks they're good" So they have to hate them?

David Frost 10-28-2004 06:47 PM

you still havent answered my question...

regardless of that, it seems that you still target me for no reason.you just pop back up here again after however long its been just to start attacking me. besides, pop music doesnt mean popular. korn is popular, are there any posts about them on that forum?

why dont you do me a favor and answer my question, what bands have i said i disliked because they were popular?

spearmint 10-28-2004 07:01 PM

I didn't come back here to 'attack' you...I also thought you did with my list of bands which you told me where pop and not very good and my understanding of pop is popular, as I stated. I must have misinterperated what you ment I apologise in this thread I simply wanted to know what you though 'crappy' music was like to me crappy music would be something that has repetative lyrics meaningless lyrics plain beats repetative beats heavy screamo (like whole song) and words which rhyme for the hell of rhyming. It's all I wanted to know I'm sorry my curiosity got the better of me. oh is your name actually david frost or is it just your screen name

David Frost 10-28-2004 07:26 PM

just the sn.. but are you implying that the music i listen to is crappy in that description? (being heavy screamo i guess)

spearmint 10-28-2004 07:36 PM

Not on purpose, I do prefere the lighter aproach I have to admit. I'm not saying I dislike screamo but through the whole song is a little to much. I totally respect your oppinion, besides one of my friends is in a totally overly done screamo type band thing and it's actually pretty awsome. Just couldn't listen to it alot. Didn't mean any offence, didn't really know exactly what type of music you like

jibber 10-28-2004 08:46 PM

there's not always a specific reason to dislike a band. there are some bands out there that I simply don't like, no particular reason, their music just isn't my taste. Music is such a subjective issue that it's often very hard to have a set group of qualities by which to describe a band as good or bad.

franscar 10-29-2004 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by jibber
there's not always a specific reason to dislike a band. there are some bands out there that I simply don't like, no particular reason

I get like this. Sometimes I'll read an interview with a band or hear something they've said and it just really, really annoys me. Razorlight's lead singer called himself the new Bob Dylan, and depsite the fact that he doesn't write bad songs, I just really, really dislike him for being such an arrogant tool.


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