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01-04-2010 09:57 PM |
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Originally Posted by Alfred
(Post 794622)
I think you're taking that song the wrong way. I thought it was critical of Refused at first, but I think it's a kind of regretful song that states that Refused's vision of "The Shape Of Punk To Come" is not really what came.
For example, the last line: "Sometimes false hope is better than nothing at all. Sometimes a dying breath can make true words.".
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rickly whining about what punk became after what thursday became and contributed to... thats rich. UN is his excuse to namedrop all his tr00 emo influences. you know, the ones that inspired him to produce my chemical romance's debut, tour with them and the used, etc. disregard that ****, a basement show with you & i in '97 or whenever is where they're actually coming from... yeah right. UN is just a poor ripoff of 90's screamo and rickly admits it. and it goes without saying they are light years away from pv or grindcore. whoever thought it was a good idea to call them either should be shot.
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To be honest, do you think many Thursday fans, as well as fans of the other...certain big band that's represented here...are familiar with bands like Orchid and Majority Rule?
Probably not. But I don't necessarily think that means that they're too stupid to get those bands. Because they haven't been exposed to it doesn't mean like, "Oh, they're gonna hate it because they don't get real hardcore or whatever." I think a lot of those kids are pretty open-minded, and a lot of them are saying, "I went and checked out the bands that they're ripping off or whatever, and I don't dig it, but I'll listen anyway." You never know. They might actually end up liking it. For me, at least, it's really liberating to be like, "Well, I don't really give a **** whether they like it or not because that's not really what this project's about." I'm having fun and I'm just gonna do it.
Do you think United Nations could sort of be a gateway, in that sense?
I hope so. Even if there's a few kids that get into all the stuff that inspired me to be in Thursday because of United Nations, then I'll be stoked. All the bands that we played with when we started--like You And I and Saetia, Reversal Of Man-- played my basement and are from my whole culture. [They are] my whole cultural reference.
On that note, do you think it's at all ironic that guys from bands commonly mis-categorized as screamo in the past few years came together to form an actual screamo band?
[Cracks up.] Yeah, that's kind of funny, isn't it? Because that's what Ben [Koller] from Converge kept saying, like, "Dude, I know that we're sort of calling this power-violence or whatever, [but it] really actually is what screamo is about. This is mid-'90s screamo right here, for real." And I was like, "I know. It really is." But if you say that, everybody thinks the Used. You know what I mean? Or whatever people call Thursday or Glassjaw, or whatever. It's not actually what it is. [We] always [say], "No, really, Thursday is post-hardcore. We're not a screamo band. I know screamo bands, and--[Laughs.]--we're not."
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