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My Heartagram Romance 12-19-2004 04:43 PM

Thoughts on emo.
 
Emo gets me down. Not the music created by emo bands, as such. But the concept. Why do we allow the idea of people writing songs which express emotion to have a special category all by itself? Surely every song is emo, as the idea behind writing songs is to express emotion, isn't it? (Well, pop songs are usually wrote to boost the payroll of the artist, but that's irrelevant.) Surely it's an insult to bands who aren't classed as emo to not call them emo? Is it calling their songs emotionless? Well, technically, it's saying that they're emotional in a different way. So they're emo. All songs are emo. Apart from the ones that obviously aren't.

Very odd, emo is.

David Frost 12-19-2004 04:52 PM

emo is a genre, not a song writing technique. believe it or not, but there are emo bands that are insturmental!

My Heartagram Romance 12-19-2004 04:54 PM

Surely the same still applies? And...instrumental? Is there a god?

caughstealingstars 12-20-2004 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Frost
emo is a genre, not a song writing technique. believe it or not, but there are emo bands that are insturmental!

explain to me how this works???...

covle 12-21-2004 02:16 AM

it works because "emo" is not just about lyrics.

eViL 12-21-2004 07:36 AM

emo is a style of life, of thoughts...

XmatchbookromanceX 12-21-2004 07:39 AM

...emo...is a way of life...to me anyway...

and i kno a realy good instrumental emo band...

...u should check them out coz they are waaaaaaaaay good...

www.lipswich.com <<< i think

hopefornothing 12-21-2004 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by caughstealingstars
explain to me how this works???...

Because emo is a genre of music you don't need lyrics to define it tends to Be more "poetic" and "artsy" i don’t know if that helps any

Cpt.Howdy 12-21-2004 09:24 AM

I can't stand people who wallow in selfpitty and blame other people for there sh!ty life and then make idle threat's about killing themselves. I'm not saying your all like this but the emo kid's i know are and i wish they would remeber that there's always knives in the kitchen so quit threatening already.

ArtistInTheAmbulance 12-21-2004 09:57 AM

^^ Isn't that a bit harsh? It's ok i guess if the person threatening has no reason to and is just doing it for attention, but if they really do have problems with the people around them it's not really their fault. Wouldn't you feel a bit guilty if you said that to someone and they went ahead and killed themselves? Anyways off topic, i know... Back to the emo thing...

Moniker 12-21-2004 06:49 PM

Being emo isn't being emotional. There's plenty of emotional music that isn't emo in the least. Emo is about exaggerated emotion over commonplace events. Like cutting yourself because nobody wished you a Happy Birthday. I know someone who actually did that. It's mind-blowingly pathetic and also equally retarded at the same time, which I consider quite a feat.

Urban Hat€monger ? 12-21-2004 06:59 PM

Emo = Pop music for teenage girls who don`t like to admit they like pop music

covle 12-21-2004 07:18 PM

evidently this person thinks that the only emo bands are bands like tbs yellowcard, bright eyes and whatnot.

Urban Hat€monger ? 12-21-2004 07:32 PM

No i`ve heard some of the so called good ones too

jibber 12-21-2004 07:45 PM

^ and what would these "so called good bands" be?

Urban Hat€monger ? 12-21-2004 07:51 PM

Well , I was played an album by a band called the promise ring who i`m told are highly rated by emo types & after 30 seconds came to the conclusion that they have possibly the worst singer I have ever heard. And i think the last thing I heard was some band called the arcade fire who , I don`t know if they would be considered an emo band as such , I know lots of little emo kiddies wetting their knickers over them , however to me they just sound like every other ****ty Cure influenced band i`ve ever heard.

I`ve heard more but I don`t want to dwell on such filth.

jibber 12-21-2004 07:55 PM

^ my bad, obviously your musical genious is too great and expansive for a mere mortal like myslef to be able to comprehend. How could I ever have considered that people could have differing opinions. Obviously if all emo is filth to you, it must be filth to the rest of us.

(get off your f*cking high horse, and realize that if you don't happen to like a band, that it doesn't label them as filth to everyone else. Music is what we call subjective to opinion, meaning people are bound to have differing opinions, and there is no right or wrong when it comes to musical preference.)

Urban Hat€monger ? 12-21-2004 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jibber
Music is what we call subjective to opinion, meaning people are bound to have differing opinions, and there is no right or wrong when it comes to musical preference.)

Yes I know , thats why i`m expressing my views.

jibber 12-21-2004 08:03 PM

^ yeah, except you have yet to post a single positive comment on the boards, or even explain your negativity towards bands that you don't like. You're starting to get on my nerves, and if you keep this up, you might find that your username is no longer valid at this site. consider yourself warned.

Oi_To_The_World 12-21-2004 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jibber
^ and what would these "so called good bands" be?

he/she/it still hasnt told us what any of these "good bands" are. not in any of the forums. its just been b*tch b*tch b*tch

sleepy jack 12-21-2004 10:19 PM

Urban Hatemonger is only lookin to start a big flamewar guys is that so wrong?

hopefornothing 12-22-2004 08:11 AM

its funny that he doesn’t want to dwell but he goes out of his/her way to come post on the emo board about how he/she doesn’t like emo i got a good laugh out of it.....and that doesn’t happen much you know with me being emo in all =)

O yes to Urban Hatemonger if you are feeling nice could you kindly post some of the soo called good emo that you listen to? im just curious

Urban Hat€monger ? 12-22-2004 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hopefornothing

O yes to Urban Hatemonger if you are feeling nice could you kindly post some of the soo called good emo that you listen to? im just curious

As soon as I hear them i`ll let you know but i`ve not heard any yet , you`ll just have to stick to your bright eyes albums for now ,sorry

Zealious 12-23-2004 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger
Emo = Pop music for teenage girls who don`t like to admit they like pop music

I completely agree with you.

brokenheartsandfallenhero 12-24-2004 01:14 AM

ok my opinion here emo is much more than just a genre of music, its a lifestyle that you make and you decide what you want to listen to i mean i listen to the royal tennenbaums soundtrack and i consider it emo and i consider mortal treason emo but thats just me i mean i dont think that hawthorne is emo in any way or anything like that i just think that emo is all about what you make it, some rich popular "pop punk" emo kid is going to have a different explanation of emo than a ahem real kid with real problems who sits in the back of class and gets made fun of for the way he dresses and is hated by most every guy and gets along with most every girl will, what i mean is, one will be a mediatized mtv version of emo and the other will be a actual elliot smith stab yourself in the heart, slit wrists, half a bottle of asprin, chain smokin, alcoholic, dirty, real side of emo, if that makes any real sense

brokenheartsandfallenhero 12-24-2004 01:21 AM

Emo = Pop music for teenage girls who don`t like to admit they like pop music
oh and this comment pal if i ever meet you on the street i will kick your ass nobody calls my tunes pop thats crossing a line bro and im no teenage girl bro so dont try to put me into some bull**** box cuz that really pisses me off i mean you dont know me man but i will tell you this yea im emo but that dont mean that i cant stomp you hell just two weks ago in the hospital i kicked some guys ass for making fun of me, with alcohol poisening so no iron and wine-not pop gloria record-not pop, appleseed cast-not pop, ex models-not pop,belle and sebastian-not pop, teagen and sara-not pop, blood brothers-not pop, fallen stars forgotten-not pop, edison gale-not pop, joy division-not pop,conor-not pop,all time quarterback-not pop,bear vs shark-not pop and i can go on and on

Invisible Spider 12-24-2004 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger
Emo = Pop music for teenage girls who don`t like to admit they like pop music

What!? do you even know what your talking about?

Invisible Spider 12-24-2004 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brokenheartsandfallenhero
Emo = Pop music for teenage girls who don`t like to admit they like pop music
oh and this comment pal if i ever meet you on the street i will kick your ass nobody calls my tunes pop thats crossing a line bro and im no teenage girl bro so dont try to put me into some bull**** box cuz that really pisses me off i mean you dont know me man but i will tell you this yea im emo but that dont mean that i cant stomp you hell just two weks ago in the hospital i kicked some guys ass for making fun of me, with alcohol poisening so no iron and wine-not pop gloria record-not pop, appleseed cast-not pop, ex models-not pop,belle and sebastian-not pop, teagen and sara-not pop, blood brothers-not pop, fallen stars forgotten-not pop, edison gale-not pop, joy division-not pop,conor-not pop,all time quarterback-not pop,bear vs shark-not pop and i can go on and on

Calm down...no matter how much you want to do it...you just can't cyber-punch the guy...

Urban Hat€monger ? 12-24-2004 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brokenheartsandfallenhero
Emo = Pop music for teenage girls who don`t like to admit they like pop music
oh and this comment pal if i ever meet you on the street i will kick your ass nobody calls my tunes pop thats crossing a line bro and im no teenage girl bro so dont try to put me into some bull**** box cuz that really pisses me off i mean you dont know me man but i will tell you this yea im emo but that dont mean that i cant stomp you hell just two weks ago in the hospital i kicked some guys ass for making fun of me, with alcohol poisening so no iron and wine-not pop gloria record-not pop, appleseed cast-not pop, ex models-not pop,belle and sebastian-not pop, teagen and sara-not pop, blood brothers-not pop, fallen stars forgotten-not pop, edison gale-not pop, joy division-not pop,conor-not pop,all time quarterback-not pop,bear vs shark-not pop and i can go on and on

Please don`t even think of lumbering Joy Division in with all that **** you`ve listed.

Oh and Belle & Sebastian openly call themselves pop.

brokenheartsandfallenhero 12-24-2004 10:02 AM

have you ever even listened to belle and sebas because if you have then there is no way that you can call them pop,but then again i guess YOU could because ive come to the conclusion that you are a complete moron with no respect for music, and if you are such a musical intellect then you will have no problem telling us some good bands, and then weeping as i rip them apart

Urban Hat€monger ? 12-24-2004 11:09 AM

what part of 'CALL THEMSELVES' pop do you have a problem understanding?

I`ll break it down so you understand.

Belle & Sebastian are a UK band. The U.K. has a history of making good pop, stretching right back to The Beatles , The Stones , The Kinks , The Small Faces going through T-Rex , The Jam , The Smiths, New Order, The Cure, The Stone Roses ect ect.
Calling them a pop band isn`t the insult you seem to think it is. They are carrying the tradition of many good British pop bands. I`ve seen so many people from North America try to lable these bands anything other than pop & I just find it funny there are people like you who will do anything to avoid the truth.

Belle & Sebastian are a pop band , they say so themselves , now suck it up.

brokenheartsandfallenhero 12-24-2004 11:32 AM

you know what i really am beginning to hate you you dumb **** all bands that are good in britain are considered pop and of course i know that they are british but you said earlier that emo is just pop i said its not and in the u.s. belle is in no way pop you ******* so why dont you go listen to your ****ty music and ill listen to some gatsbys american dream, or are they too poppy for ya *******

brokenheartsandfallenhero 12-24-2004 11:34 AM

hey man i dedicate One Hell Of A Prize Fighter to ya from 18 visions, sorry its so poppy though

Urban Hat€monger ? 12-24-2004 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brokenheartsandfallenhero
you know what i really am beginning to hate you you dumb **** all bands that are good in britain are considered pop and of course i know that they are british but you said earlier that emo is just pop i said its not and in the u.s. belle is in no way pop you ******* so why dont you go listen to your ****ty music and ill listen to some gatsbys american dream, or are they too poppy for ya *******

No I said it`s pop for teenage girls get it right.

As for bands changing genres just because of the country it`s heard in , well thats just about the dumbest thing I ever heard.And cut down on the abuse it makes you look like a 10 year old.

Thrice 12-24-2004 02:52 PM

Ignorance is bliss^

David Frost 12-25-2004 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taking back thursday
Are you 11?

Do you have black hair and wear converses?

David Frost 12-28-2004 11:39 AM

jesus, reading your post is like being in the stream of consciousness of a crack head.

Thrice 12-28-2004 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Frost
jesus, reading your post is like being in the stream of consciousness of a crack head.

Ha ha, Honsetly. That was the perfect way to explain it.

Sweet Jane 01-02-2005 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger
what part of 'CALL THEMSELVES' pop do you have a problem understanding?

I`ll break it down so you understand.

Belle & Sebastian are a UK band. The U.K. has a history of making good pop, stretching right back to The Beatles , The Stones , The Kinks , The Small Faces going through T-Rex , The Jam , The Smiths, New Order, The Cure, The Stone Roses ect ect.
Calling them a pop band isn`t the insult you seem to think it is. They are carrying the tradition of many good British pop bands. I`ve seen so many people from North America try to lable these bands anything other than pop & I just find it funny there are people like you who will do anything to avoid the truth.

Belle & Sebastian are a pop band , they say so themselves , now suck it up.

Belle and Sebastian have called themselves pop. But I think this is being confused with pop in terms of popular music, such as Britney Spears and other such nonsense. They are not in that category, hell, half the people in the UK don't even know who Belle and Sebastian are. They're more like a lo-fi pop band for indie types.

Urban Hat€monger ? 01-02-2005 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Jane
Belle and Sebastian have called themselves pop. But I think this is being confused with pop in terms of popular music, such as Britney Spears and other such nonsense. They are not in that category, hell, half the people in the UK don't even know who Belle and Sebastian are. They're more like a lo-fi pop band for indie types.

You`re just nit picking
:p:


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