yeah i am on a 'caring & killing' ting right now, the metal aspects on this record seems a little more trad-thrash so far... anyways better save it for the regular Converge thread if there is one.
p.s. i don't like it when this dude sings like at the end of Jane Doe, sort of ruins the atmosphere

i wouldn't worry about it. the 2005 remaster of petitioning the empty sky combines the more traditional thrash influenced hardcore with the polish of the newer releases... well, at least more polish than the original. the first track, "the saddest day" is one of their best songs imo.

i wasn't a huge fan of the singing on jane doe either but by the end of the track it makes up for it.

well this first album is halfway through now and on top of the thrash, it definitely has passages resembling older math rock i have heard (that would be err Polvo then), these guys were definitely paving the way for mathcore something wicked. you're right the polish is missing but it seems to have been a common problem when bands were finding the right production sound for these emerging genres of extreme metal. This is mah studying music for tomorrow =P

every albumof theirs has to have 2 ****ty slow tracks on it

i dont hate all their atypical songs, but cruel bloom is kind of boring and wretched world is anticlimactic.

cutter is ****ing sick despite the lame title

Having trouble finding it anywhere. PM anyone?

its really easy to find.

Oh wait, you posted it on that guy's wall... *facepalm*

yeah this album is fricking everywhere

ON THE off chance that you listen to converge and are of sensitive disposition dont bother with this beautiful spectacle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZIs9dMK8aU