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xcollapseofmyheartx 04-02-2005 10:56 PM

hate in the emo community
 
In here, there seems to be a rising amount of hatred of this and that. I hope someone gets what im saying. I mean, "Worst Emo Band"? I thought that before my haitus that we came to a conclusion that there isn't a set rule of emo. well, discuss your hearts out.

ArtistInTheAmbulance 04-03-2005 11:11 AM

I dont understand this thread... Do you mean more people are hating emo? Cause people have always hated emo... As far as I know anyway

Svensk 04-03-2005 11:24 AM

He's saying that there is not set rule for what Emo actually is. So do people hate all the types of emo, or just that one and decided they hate emo in general? Good question, I actually asked one of my friends who listens to nothing but emo what it was, the answer...he did not know for sure, except that it is "Emo"tional and that there are many types. Myself, I like emo-punk, but still listen to acoustic The Early November-emo-stuff. Emo is good. Deal with it.

ArtistInTheAmbulance 04-03-2005 11:28 AM

Its just like any genre then... Certain types of it are hated by some people, and some people just hate all emo...
*Sigh* Ok, Im obviously not understanding this thread, Ill just leave it be and someone else can post...

Urban Hat€monger ? 04-03-2005 11:37 AM

Emo is one of the most elitist genres out there.

I don`t think i`ve ever seen so much bitchiness & big headedness over what is emo & what isn`t.

.angie. 04-03-2005 01:50 PM

its great music.. thats all there is to it. but again, people like different music and some people hate emo, deal with it.

Zealious 04-03-2005 03:06 PM

http://www.furious.com/perfect/emo.html

Read it, and it will explain everything for you.

"For the most part, however, emo is now a sad and frail representation of what it once was. Today it has degenerated into a vile and vapid scene of vacuous individuals, more worried about the tightness of overpriced 'punk rock' t-shirts than it is about musical innovation and new forms of expression. When music becomes fashion (see 'emo' articles in various U.S. teen-girl magazines), music has lost its worth and power. More than that, critics are to blame for going into emo overdrive. Any song with an affecting use of octave chords was emo and any band on an indie label (like Vagrant, or Emotaph as Buddyhead call it) with cute boys singing about cute girls was emo. It's almost laughable."

"Emo was exciting once, but now it's a rotting corpse. The swarm of corporate major-label vultures have come to pick at the bones and for the new bands it's as easy as following the formula for punk-pop emo. In the words of Refused, it's time for new noise."

Urban Hat€monger ? 04-03-2005 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zealious
http://www.furious.com/perfect/emo.html

Read it, and it will explain everything for you.

"For the most part, however, emo is now a sad and frail representation of what it once was. Today it has degenerated into a vile and vapid scene of vacuous individuals, more worried about the tightness of overpriced 'punk rock' t-shirts than it is about musical innovation and new forms of expression. When music becomes fashion (see 'emo' articles in various U.S. teen-girl magazines), music has lost its worth and power. More than that, critics are to blame for going into emo overdrive. Any song with an affecting use of octave chords was emo and any band on an indie label (like Vagrant, or Emotaph as Buddyhead call it) with cute boys singing about cute girls was emo. It's almost laughable."

"Emo was exciting once, but now it's a rotting corpse. The swarm of corporate major-label vultures have come to pick at the bones and for the new bands it's as easy as following the formula for punk-pop emo. In the words of Refused, it's time for new noise."


Happens to every genre. I don`t see what the fuss is about

xcollapseofmyheartx 04-03-2005 08:28 PM

No im saying that people in here are always saying "oh this band sucks, that band sucks." Its stupid. why dont we say "Hey, man. I like that band over there." and then someone else says "Yeah, they're pretty cool. I like that one song." and then someone else says "What's your favorite cd?" Just pleasant things. Its stupid to come in here and deal with hating this band and hating that scene, and hating things.

xcollapseofmyheartx 04-03-2005 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger
Emo is one of the most elitist genres out there.

I don`t think i`ve ever seen so much bitchiness & big headedness over what is emo & what isn`t.



Even though I wouldn't use elitist, you got it right for the most part. Also, we have to category emo and what isn't and all that. I mean, there are a bunch of types of emo (emocore, emo, screamo, ect.) and i don't see why we're fighting. seriously, calm down.

Also, i dont see why people come in here for the sole purpose of talking about how big ***s were are and we should shut up.

.angie. 04-03-2005 08:33 PM

i dont hate emo. its my favorite genre.. people taking out agression on us poor "emo kids"

who is your favorite band, xcollapseofmyheartx?

xcollapseofmyheartx 04-03-2005 08:37 PM

Probably the mountain goats. They're all lo-fi and radi-kal.

.angie. 04-03-2005 08:42 PM

never in my entire life have i heard of them. haha. you should check out some thursday.. hey i sent you a pm by the way:)

All_Nite_Dinah 04-03-2005 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xcollapseofmyheartx
No im saying that people in here are always saying "oh this band sucks, that band sucks." Its stupid. why dont we say "Hey, man. I like that band over there." and then someone else says "Yeah, they're pretty cool. I like that one song." and then someone else says "What's your favorite cd?" Just pleasant things. Its stupid to come in here and deal with hating this band and hating that scene, and hating things.


So what your saying is people shouldnt be entitled to there own opinions?

.angie. 04-03-2005 09:09 PM

i dont think thats what he ment, i think he ment: everyone sits and complains about it and he doesnt complain about all the other genres.. but im not too sure, i dont think he is telling you to not have an opinion.

xcollapseofmyheartx 04-03-2005 09:25 PM

When did i ever say that people weren't entitled to their own opinions. People are being far too hostile towards something that doesn't hurt them and its stupid that they come in here and get pissed on our account.

_field_of_screams_ 04-03-2005 11:39 PM

Yeah I agree with what's being said about how much hostility and elitism there is here in the emo community. Now, fair enough; people should have their opinions, definately... but that doesn't entail ragging on someone's musical tastes or in some cases, the person him/herself just because he or she likes a band you don't. Disagreements are fine and expected, but when comments go too far and get personal, that's not cool. And on that note... try hugs not drugs (nor insults!)

tinker bell 04-05-2005 03:39 AM

Its easy. I f you dont like us then pi*s off

All_Nite_Dinah 04-05-2005 06:17 AM

I think everyone is blowing this out of proportion, no matter what music you listen to people do this kind of thing. Granted emo has become the new popular thing to dislike, but just because someone starts a thread on your least favorite band dosnt mean tht there hating on the whole community. It like saying just because someone dosnt like a snickers bar they hate all candybars. People have opinions and are going to voice them if you like them or not. What would a world without contreversy be anyway? Anyway who cares what other people think?

Sneer 04-05-2005 07:25 AM

bloody hell. stop bleating about how your being victimized, people are going to be hostile towards the emo genre because unfortunatly its the cool thing to do at the moment. just stick to your tastes, let other people have their slightly influenced opinions and dont waste your time caring about what anyone else thinks.

Sneer 04-05-2005 07:27 AM

...ok ive basically just said what all night dinnah said beforehand but you get the general jist i assume?

tinker bell 04-06-2005 08:00 AM

The way I see it. If you have nothing nice to say then PI*S OFF!

tinker bell 04-06-2005 08:00 AM

The way I see it. If you have nothing nice to say then dont reply back to the thread

xcollapseofmyheartx 04-07-2005 02:50 AM

I dont care what people think, its just rediculous that i come in here to talk about some cool music with cool gatos and then it becomes infested with unnecessary negativity.


P.S. - Rap is the cool thing to do.

All_Nite_Dinah 04-07-2005 06:36 AM

If your sick of the negativity than quit making threads where all you do is whine!

Porphyria Plan 04-07-2005 08:19 AM

When elitists complain about elitists...amazing guys!

When every thread turns into a verbal, intellectual, pissing contest with a dash of "this is my opinion!" something is wrong. I don't like My Chemical Romance, I don't like Bright Eyes, and I would like to beat the crap out of Dashboard or any other similar band. I've seen people talking about how they like them but just because it's my opinion that they suck doesn't mean I have to say it, every time, someone posts, everyday, over and over. It just gets really old.

I agree with you xcollapseofmyheartx, if you don't have anything good to say about a band or music don't say it.

One last tidbit, I'm amazed that people post here that don't even like emo. You even admit it. Then I have to ask, why are you here?

Sneer 04-07-2005 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by All_Nite_Dinah
If your sick of the negativity than quit making threads where all you do is whine!

hit the nail on the head there.

This_isnt_highschool 04-09-2005 07:00 AM

i think people that judge one certain type of emo, or more so judge the people who listen to it, are very narrowminded because alright fair enough they dont like that type of it but theyre ruling out the fact that not everyone who likes one specific type of emo ONLY likes that one...most people who like emo like loads of different varieties of it, its probably one of the most liked but misunderstood genres of music around

Sneer 04-09-2005 07:03 AM

its not that at all. it's just all a lot of the "emo" kids do on here is complain and whine. they could try talking about the music they like.

xcollapseofmyheartx 04-11-2005 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by All_Nite_Dinah
If your sick of the negativity than quit making threads where all you do is whine!


I'm not whining. I'm asking you guys to leave because it makes no sense that you come in here and bitch at how stupid we are and how much we suck.

xcollapseofmyheartx 04-11-2005 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LedZepStu
its not that at all. it's just all a lot of the "emo" kids do on here is complain and whine. they could try talking about the music they like.

We do talk about what kind of music we like. that was almost all we did before the negs, as i call them, came in.

And why are you even in here?

This_isnt_highschool 04-11-2005 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LedZepStu
its not that at all. it's just all a lot of the "emo" kids do on here is complain and whine. they could try talking about the music they like.

the only reason 'emo' kids complain on here sometimes is because we get people like you come on this forum, when you obviously just wanna insult our taste in music, telling us how much we whine and complain...i dont see you producing any productive posts on here either

All_Nite_Dinah 04-11-2005 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xcollapseofmyheartx
I'm not whining. I'm asking you guys to leave because it makes no sense that you come in here and bitch at how stupid we are and how much we suck.


Thats a pretty baseless accusation. Like I said before, if yo can find one post where I resort to name calling and say I dont like emo then Ill leave. Have you acctually ever read any of my posts?

Baisically your just attacking me because you dont like the music I do <-sound familiar?

Urban Hat€monger ? 04-11-2005 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porphyria Plan

One last tidbit, I'm amazed that people post here that don't even like emo. You even admit it. Then I have to ask, why are you here?

Just because you don`t like a genre of music doesn`t mean you can`t have an opinion on the culture of it.

Ever heard of an outside perspective?

Porphyria Plan 04-11-2005 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger
Just because you don`t like a genre of music doesn`t mean you can`t have an opinion on the culture of it.

Ever heard of an outside perspective?

Oh I totally agree. I have opinions about a lot of things I don't like as do we all. I think I should make the distinction that the "worst emo band" thread that was referenced in the first post I don't have an issue with. It's when someone is talking about a band and the discussion goes down in flames from the start because somone says their "stupid".

http://www.musicbanter.com/showthrea...8&page=1&pp=10

Urban Hat€monger ? 04-11-2005 12:02 PM

I`ve been to forums for all sorts of subjects , not just music and that sort of thing happen everywhere.

When something like that happens it`s got absolutley nothing to do with music or genres of hating a band it`s just someone trying to get attention by getting a rise out of someone.

Porphyria Plan 04-11-2005 03:13 PM

Absolutely. I visit tons of gaming forums. Some gaming communities are 1,000 times more rabid than this. If your not one of the "cool" circle of gamers you need to find somewhere else to talk. You'll be flamed and eaten before the word go. That's why I rarely post there. They are a bunch of elitist ****wads that if you don't like the few certain titles your an idiot and deemed unworthy of an decent response. Your right, these forums are just like all the rest of the forums on the internet. Too bad, it should have been different.

Sneer 04-11-2005 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by This_isnt_highschool
the only reason 'emo' kids complain on here sometimes is because we get people like you come on this forum, when you obviously just wanna insult our taste in music, telling us how much we whine and complain...i dont see you producing any productive posts on here either

im not trying to insult your genre at all, in fact i havent said one word of insult towards the music. so i suggest you get your facts straight my dear. i come on the emo forum every once and a while to try learning about some of the bands out there and see whos gaining popularity etc but all you guys do is bleat.

riseagainstrocks 04-11-2005 07:31 PM

Music Banter. key word is banter. you know like witty rhetoric. like cunning and clever. poosibly a bit offending. Christ, quit bitching, stand up for yourselfs, and listen to whatever you want. I like MCR and Cryptopsy. The Blue Ink Rebellion and As I Lay Dying. Converge and Strike Anywhere. I am all over the place. don't care what people think about it an neither should you.

The reason people are so elitist is because they are right. but you are too. emo has evolved (or devolved some might say) either way, grow a pair and fight back. Don't be negative or childish, but use examples of why the artist you like are talented or point out why the band someone likes isn't very good.

This_isnt_highschool 04-12-2005 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LedZepStu
im not trying to insult your genre at all, in fact i havent said one word of insult towards the music. so i suggest you get your facts straight my dear. i come on the emo forum every once and a while to try learning about some of the bands out there and see whos gaining popularity etc but all you guys do is bleat.

if you actually read my post properly you'll find that i said "people like you" i know you havnt insulted the music specifically...and i never said you did, im just saying that with so much negativity towards us coming from people LIKE you (and the last couple of posts is a prime example) no wonder all it seems we do is whine! so i suggest you get YOUR facts straight my dear


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