The Indie Education Thread (funk, jazz, pop, quote, 80s)

[The Dave]

^I brought it up because you like them and their stuff has been done before, thus making them completely unoriginal, according to your standards at least.

[ProggyMan]

Originally Posted by Crowquill

Ever heard Rock the Casbah? Crosstown Traffic? Yeah and its not many people, because I don't listen to funk so naturally I couldn't say much about it. But even listing one other than Maroon 5 proves the point wrong and listing predecessors only makes it more apparent their unoriginal. But you can keep arguing about how original they are, it only takes one band doing it before them to prove that wrong.

I thinks it's ridiculous you said anything at all he said "You do mean 'original' for a pop band i assume? Because that may be a near valid comment." You said "Pop and funk isn't something that many people have experimented with, especially currently." wheres the disagreement? Oh wait! There isn't one, this is just a classic case of senior member cock sucking and new member bullying. Dead was right, you guys were wrong. End of story.

Is there a piano in any of those songs? Are any of them anywhere near as melodic as Maroon 5?

[ProggyMan]

Originally Posted by Crowquill

Lol, with the exception of his later stuff like King's Crossing i've never argued Elliott Smith to be original and quite a bit of Patrick Wolfs material on Lycanthropy is original. I don't know why you're bringing them up, they aren't relevant to the argument. I wouldn't compare two multi-instrumentalist singer/songwriters who for the most part did everything themselves to some made for the radio pop band.

Eliott Smith isn't original at all really, but that's not relevant. He dragged them in to show you how ridiculous your arguement was.

[sleepy jack]

Originally Posted by ProggyMan

Is there a piano in any of those songs? Are any of them anywhere near as melodic as Maroon 5?

Please explain to me how ONE instrument, A PIANO is going to make Maroon 5 so original?

Originally Posted by ProggyMan

Eliott Smith isn't original at all really, but that's not relevant. He dragged them in to show you how ridiculous your arguement was.

Yeah and i've never said he was with the exception of the later material he produced...

Originally Posted by The Dave

^I brought it up because you like them and their stuff has been done before, thus making them completely unoriginal, according to your standards at least.

So? Since when does the originality of something effect how I like it?

[ProggyMan]

Originally Posted by Crowquill

Please explain to me how ONE instrument, A PIANO is going to make Maroon 5 so original?

Because it completaly changes their sound. I've got nothing besides that.

[sleepy jack]

Originally Posted by ProggyMan

Because it completaly changes their sound. I've got nothing besides that.

So the driving force in their music is a piano, as opposed to a guitar. I guess they're the first ones to do that?

[ProggyMan]

Of bands that are similar in other area's? Yep.

[sleepy jack]

Originally Posted by ProggyMan

Of bands that are similar in other area's? Yep.

So I guess that piano totally separates them from other bands doing the same thing and thats the deciding factor on them being original?

[ProggyMan]

Why not?

[sleepy jack]

Originally Posted by ProggyMan

Why not?

I just wanted to clarify and since thats the case, okay they are original. Yep and the only reason they're original is because of a piano. I think that says alot about their musical creativity.