Wilco
 

What do we think? I love them

never heard of them.

Maybe cause ur in a country forum and their a rock band. ever thought of that...
:usehead:

You not heard of alt - country then?

Crap name for a genre I know , but then again I didn`t coin it.

Precisely. :p:

I think Sparklehorse & Lambchop are better

*ducks*

Sparklehorse, whatever happened to them? Wilco would be better than Lambchop if all their albums were of Yankee Hotel Foxtrot standard, but as it stands, Lambchop are much more consistent. Listening to You ****ing sunny day right now actually.

*wonders if UH is being sarcastic*

Oh well, I stand by it, I like them all. (Apologies if this post isn't argumentative enough for you but I happen to agree) ;)

Me ?

I`m not being sarcastic or argumentative i`m just saying what i like , just as I always do.

I`m a pussycat really :)

wilco
 

im not sure if this is the right place for this thread, coz you cant really categorize wilco, but is anyone else angry about their recent grammy win? or wins to be precise

What were you doing watching the Grammys?
Theres a Wilco thread in the country forum.
And, I like em. Blah Blah and so on.

lol i didnt watch the grammys, i just heard about it afterwards. and im a big wilco fan, i just think its a bit of a travesty for them to be recognised with such a disgraceful excuse for an award. thanks for the forum info

love em. especially since they have a different sound for all their albums. what does everyone think of ghost is born?

lol its still beats the term used for uncle tupelo - Mythical alternate country rock.... what a joke

Uncle Tupelo were far better IMO. Don't know nothing about no Grammies.

I'm back in the Wilco and Jim O'Rourke groove since getting their dvd 'I am trying to break your heart'

Its beautiful.

yeah expecially the black and white thing. very well done

wilco
 

i belived they might be the best rock and roll band around

The search button is a wonderful thing http://www.musicbanter.com/search.ph...3&pp=25&page=2
But, yea great alternative country band.

I have to hear about them nonstop, since they have deep connect in this town. But, there's some talk in Big3's alt-country thread. Check out Son Volt's earliest album, and some Uncle Tupelo if you're down.

Wilco is so fantastic, my favorite songs are probably I'm Always In Love, Late Greats and I Am Trying to Break Your Heart. I think Tweedy is my favorite songwriter right now. I can't decide on a favorite album, but I think its Yankee Hotel Foxtrot.

Wilco is a fine band. What I don't get is why no love for Son Volt? If you force me to choose between the two Uncle Tupelo offshoots I'd have to go for Son Volt. They seem a little more versatile than Wilco and I just really like the way Farrar's voice sounds. Both wonderful bands though.

How isn't Wilco country? You have a very narrow-view of music if you think country ends with Hank Williams that's like saying rock ends with Elvis. Wilco is alt-country defined. People need to stop assuming just because a band has the typical guitarist/bassist/drummer line-up they're a rock band.

Why do you have to include insults about people's intelligence with every one of your posts?

Well I would reply but I'm obviously too unintelligent. I mean I don't think Wilco sounds like most of those artists. Dwight Yoakam? Give me a break. I think half the artists you listed sound nothing alike eachother. Stupid me!

Problem with that is Dwight Yoakam isn't alternative country. Not only was he all over country radio but he sounds like half the artists on country radio today. You're the one who needs to educate himself because frankly it looks like you just name-dropped a bunch of artists and then slapped the term on them. Wilco isn't rock and you've yet to explain how they're rock you just made a bunch of ill comparisons in hope it would hide the fact you didn't actually explain how Wilco are rock. So please explain how Wilco are rock instead of trying to dazzle everyone with your faux-musical knowledge.

Alternative music is basically alternative to mainstream music which has a lot to do with being on the radio or not. You can be on the radio and be alternative but you have to be doing something that isn't middle of the road popular country which Dwight Yoakam does.

I hate it when people argue like this. Your average Wilco song tends to sound more like Jesus, Etc. or The Late Greats. So I'd like you to explain how the majority of their work, including the tracks I listed, are rock as opposed to picking and choosing your own examples to help your argument.

You know what I'm not even going to argue with you on this because it's obvious you're too caught up in being "right" to bother listening to any sort of reason. I mean the fact you think I'm lacking confidence by choosing the Late Greats as opposed to the original one I picked I Am Trying to Break Your Heart just shows your complete lack of knowledge of Wilco's music seeing as they sound very similar stylistically. Oh and I referenced the Late Greats which isn't off of Yankee Hotel Foxtrot, good job screwing up the title by the way. Obviously you're the real Wilco fan here.

The great irony of this whole post is:

1. You don't explain the stylistic difference between I Am Trying to Break Your Heart and the Late Greats.

2. You still haven't addressed how the Late Greats is on "Yankee Foxtrot Hotel"

3. You also haven't addressed your inability as the great Wilco fan to explain why you couldn't even get the album title correct.

Good job being the one on the high road here and always addressing points!

How are they rock songs?

Odd...seeing as you'd acknowledged my edit and had still said that...

I did address point two and I guess I can tear into you some more for point 3 if you want but I don't see a point.

They're almost folk tunes in their simplicity. I don't see how the songs are much different from some of the stuff Johnny Cash has done. They're very simple acoustic driven songs with no rock elements whatsoever.

Oh and as for Jesus, Etc. it's very country sounding, slowed-down and rootsy. It even has a steel guitar (at least on the live version) and violins, hardly very "rock" instruments.

Finally I'd like to add alternative-country-rock is kind of a stupid term because alt. country is basically country with non-country elements (i.e. rock or in cases like Okkervil River indie-folk) so Wilco having rock elements or being alternative-country-rock is basically the same thing. This is just you showing your typical analism when it comes to genre. None of the Wilco fans here (and there are some huge ones like sweet jane and hookers) have complained about this being here in fact they even think Wilco is alternatve country. You're being ridiculous.

Wilco is Experimental Indie Adult Alternative Country Pop/Rock

Nearly EVERY genre has a strong backbeat, it's not something you'll find only in rock. Vocalization is hardly a genre-strict thing anyway. Unless you're going to start running around claiming Southern Rock is country because of the accent. You've proved nothing about it being a rock song you've just pointed out two obviously things and tried to pin them down as genre descriptions.

Acoustic guitars are a very dominant thing in country music its what all those guys like Hank Williams and Johnny Cash played you know. I'd consider it an element of roots music because most folk artists just use an acoustic guitar and Wilco are extremely rootsy. They're slowed down and have plenty of elements of roots music, more so than they do rock elements and country music is roots music so...

I just said violins weren't very common in rock music not that they were a country element. Weren't you just bitching about my reading comprehension?

Maybe you should type up a definition of rock music, country music, alt-country, and alt-country rock because you seem to have different definitions for the genres then I've ever heard before. For instance I didn't know how someone sings was something to classify them on genre-wise. So it would be of a great help if you could just explain these genres to me since I'm so stupid compared to you oh great one.

Fuck I'm not even going to bother. You think Wilco isn't country because Jeff Tweedy doesn't have a southern accent and they have drums. I think we know who the real idiot is here.

lolrony

Oh that's definitely going to get you somewhere. I'm still the mod here as you pointed out and I'm not going to move this thread just because Wilco have a strong backbeat. Case closed.

Wilco has elements of Country and Rock. Does it matter which one it's in? Just give Don what he wants Ethan, it can't hurt.

I have an older account, and I've seen plenty of Don posts and you called sleepy jack fire drill Crowquill. Suspicious, mmm?

As to Wilco, what's wrong with a forum that nobody goes to having a thread on a band with elements of that genre? I don't see why it's so important.

Seems to me that Country fans make up Wilco's main fanbase.

1. You act like him. Different taste, but personality is the same.
2. You did. You wouldn't be used to calling him that. Not that I really care. If you are, welcome back, if not...

I'm not moving it bigger Wilco fans have had 0 problem with it being here, I have 0 problem with it being here and finally Wilco's drumming isn't going to be the decider for what genre they are. End of discussion.

Funny, I've just joined and was looking for ref to Wilco...first place I looked was here :D

Having said that, I think that there are many groups out there who are undefinable because they draw from a range of genres.

Hello everyone BTW :)