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ADELE 09-05-2008 02:28 PM

He played a concert with them and does tele work and he said Daman was the sole genius behind Blur.
Farmers have sidelines old jackhammer!
Not just moonshine either.

Piss Me Off 09-05-2008 02:30 PM

He had some solo thing with his girlfriend or something like that as well, they were terrible.

Edit: Or Betty Boo, sure.

jackhammer 09-05-2008 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 514749)
He does occasionally

He did Marianne Faithfull and Sophie Ellis Bextor's albums , did a project with Betty Boo as well.

Yeah but not for a couple of years . Like I said early 00's. 2003 I think. Betty Boo still around is she? jeez.

Urban Hat€monger ? 09-05-2008 02:33 PM

Ike Turner made an onstage appearence with Gorillaz.

I guess that makes him a full time member too.

ADELE 09-05-2008 02:33 PM

Parklife was about the Americanisation of the UK with shopping malls and stuff all plastic whereas Oasis were about drugs and rock n roll.
I guess ideas that come from social feelings can evolve whereas songs about getting mashed last forever as they are but are harder to replicate.
am I right?

Minstrel 09-05-2008 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ADELE (Post 514744)
Fair enough minstrel.
You win this time.
But I shall return more powerful then before and reek havoc on your opinions.

Please do. The reason I sought out a good music forum is to have these types of discussions.

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You gotta understand that co written credits are for distribution of monies not for actual ideas.
Composition credits are whatever the band wants them to be. The Beatles didn't give Ringo credit for 99% of their songs, and Harrison is only given credit for the songs he wrote. All the rest are "Lennon/McCartney."

I didn't mention to composition credits as proof that you are wrong. I mentioned them because I don't see any evidence that Albarn was solely responsible. The composition credits could have been proof, if they listed only Albarn, but they don't. And Albarn being solely responsible doesn't match what I've read in the past.

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If you then construe that adding a bass line or drums makes you a co writer then you see why the Smiths broke up.
It does make you a co-writer. Songs aren't just lyrics and lead vocals. Without bass lines and rhythm sections, the songs wouldn't work.

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Albarn is the force behind these acts and if he wasn't there there wouldn't be a Blur or a Gorillaz
That is debateably true about Blur, but definitely not with Gorillaz. Dan the Automator, Kid Koala and Del the Funkee Homosapien have all been major parts of the song-writing for Gorillaz. Sure, Albarn is important but he's not the sole creative force.

ADELE 09-05-2008 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 514757)
Ike Turner made an onstage appearence with Gorillaz.

I guess that makes him a full time member too.

Was he an influence or guitarist with Damon's former band aswell though my urban foe?

Did he say in interviews about blur and oasis that damon was a genius who wrote all their great songs?
I guess not.
If you were a lawyer you'd be defending hoodies in Lambeth and I'd be prosecuting music moguls like Simon Cowell.
Only kidding Urban.

Urban Hat€monger ? 09-05-2008 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ADELE (Post 514760)
Was he an influence or guitarist with Damon's former band aswell though my urban foe?

Did he say in interviews about blur and oasis that damon was a genius who wrote all their great songs?
I guess not.
If you were a lawyer you'd be defending hoodies in Lambeth and I'd be prosecuting music moguls like Simon Cowell.
Only kidding Urban.

What's someones former band got to do with it?

Dan the Automator or Del the Funkee Homosapien were never in Blur , does that make them lesser members of Gorillaz because of it?

and you'd make a shit lawyer because your argument is full of holes your second point is just there for the sake of being there, it's totally meaningless in this context. I'm talking about band members not the songwriting.

ADELE 09-05-2008 02:46 PM

Band members can be session musicians like Ringo in the Beatles.
The only reason we know of certain bands is because of the songs.
There are bands in every pub up and down the world playing in pubs but Brian Wilson stayed at home and wrote the Beach Boys songs.
Would we be talking about the Beach Boys if one of the others was responsible for the songs?
I think not.
Anyway, I was crediting Albarn and you turn on me.
If I credit Oasis you turn on me.
Me gets the feeling you don't like me very much Urban.
Oasis are better but their latest single is a bit crap.

Farfisa 09-05-2008 08:17 PM

(getting back on topic)
I do like Blur alot more then Oasis because it's not overhyped shite.

Alfred 09-05-2008 09:51 PM

I've heard, like, one song by each band (Wonderwall and Song 2). Based on those two, seemingly their most popular, I'd go with Blur, even though that's an unfair representation of their music.

Blah. Conceited pricks.

sweet_nothing 09-05-2008 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Alfred (Post 514939)
I've heard, like, one song by each band (Wonderwall and Song 2). Based on those two, seemingly their most popular, I'd go with Blur, even though that's an unfair representation of their music.

*shakes head in disappointment

15Steps 09-06-2008 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Alfred (Post 514939)
I've heard, like, one song by each band (Wonderwall and Song 2). Based on those two, seemingly their most popular, I'd go with Blur, even though that's an unfair representation of their music.

Blah. Conceited pricks.

if you want to get a good place to start with blur, i would go with Modern Life Is Rubbish, however if you want their later stuff, i say 13.

the best of cd isnt a bad place either.

Minstrel 09-06-2008 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 15Steps (Post 515104)
if you want to get a good place to start with blur, i would go with Modern Life Is Rubbish, however if you want their later stuff, i say 13.

the best of cd isnt a bad place either.

I agree, a Best Of is a good place to start with Blur. They had a number of good singles.

I'd say Parklife is the most hooky of their albums, but Modern Life Is Rubbish is almost as good. The Great Escape has a number of very strong tracks.

For Oasis, it's really all about What's The Story, Morning Glory? and Definitely, Maybe. After that, they declined a lot, in my opinion.

kyleargyle 09-08-2008 09:26 AM

Anyone see Noel Gallagher get attacked in Toronto this weekend? He was knocked down from behind while performing at VirginFest.

Piss Me Off 09-08-2008 11:07 AM



Hehehe..

right-track 09-08-2008 11:56 AM

Liam shit himself.

Piss Me Off 09-08-2008 11:57 AM

He apparantly gave him a seeing to backstage, i can only imagine the security helped him out though.

kyleargyle 09-08-2008 02:11 PM

Seems like a huge waste of money to pay that much for a ticket, just so you can knock down a Gallagher. Not to mention his coming legal bills...

slim slow slider 09-08-2008 03:01 PM

Both fantastic. Although, I hear the new Oasis is nothing to write home about. I will say this, I like Blurs "tender"-- live version better than any single Oasis song. However, I think as a collective, I like Oasis better.

sweet_nothing 09-08-2008 03:11 PM

I felt bad seeing that happen to Noel. At one part it looked like Liam was going to punch the guy but didn't, I thought people form Manchester were supposed to be tough.


Jay-Z probably paid the guy.

15Steps 09-10-2008 04:28 PM

talent;



not so much;


15Steps 09-10-2008 04:28 PM

wtf, whats wrong with mah videos.

Piss Me Off 09-10-2008 04:30 PM

Fixed them, quote the post to see how you do it.

sweet_nothing 09-13-2008 07:19 PM

Can somone hook me up with popscene by Blur? I've had it stuck in my head all day.


*EDIT
nvm

Farfisa 09-18-2008 01:08 PM

Haha...look what I found.


If that was me, I'd beat the living shite out of that guy...

sweet_nothing 09-18-2008 03:39 PM

kinda late on posting that bud :\

15Steps 09-18-2008 04:32 PM

lol.
i dont like oasis, but that was kinda rude.

Molecules 09-18-2008 05:21 PM

yeah but as was said earlier, that guy would have paid dearly for his 5 minutes of fame backstage.
**** Noel, I feel sorry for him

Akira 09-18-2008 05:22 PM

The wiser course would have been to throw him to the crowd. "show's over, but have fun"

15Steps 09-20-2008 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Molecules (Post 521057)
yeah but as was said earlier, that guy would have paid dearly for his 5 minutes of fame backstage.
**** Noel, I feel sorry for him

yeh.
even if noel is the lesser ******* of the two of them.

Canation 09-20-2008 12:09 PM

I like Oasis better. Mainly because wonderwall is one of my favourite songs

sweet_nothing 09-20-2008 05:44 PM

For Tomorrow> Wonderwall

Akira 09-20-2008 05:45 PM

Most Blur or Oasis stuff > Wonderwall

15Steps 09-20-2008 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by sweet_nothing (Post 521932)
For Tomorrow> Wonderwall

QFT

My fav blur song.

LadyNocturnal 09-21-2008 05:16 PM

Blur all the way! The gallaghers voices do my nut head in!

Akira 09-21-2008 05:17 PM

I don't like Liams voice but I really like Noels, not that it is amazing, but I like the tone of it.

jackhammer 09-21-2008 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ToeAndno (Post 522321)
I don't like Liams voice but I really like Noels, not that it is amazing, but I like the tone of it.

Agreed. Although Blur's general body of work far outshines that of Oasis's. The Gallagher brothers are very good at creating simple catchy riffs which is something that Blur were less competent at.

My favourite Oasis track:


against my favourite Blur track:



Perfect example. Oasis is catchy but Blur are more insidious.

Molecules 09-21-2008 05:39 PM

Mr. Coxon is one hell of a guitarist. I saw them at the Mean Fiddler promoting 'Think Tank' (meh), sort of a childhood dream come true, but it was lacking without the G-meister. They did play T.O.P.M.A.N however :D

sweet_nothing 09-21-2008 05:42 PM

Jackhammer I strongly disagree with you I think Blur were better at both. But has anyone checked out Graham's solo stuff?


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