my sentiments exactly. i've met so many metalheads that seem like their heads are completely empty, but i don't go blaming that on pantera. and i'm not saying this because i like DMB (which i do), i'm saying this because it's kinda ridic to knock a band because of its fans and then blanket the entire demographic with harsh - yet witty - generalizations. no offense, but that makes me want to answer the question "do you listen to music" with "no. snobs like that sh*t."

aside from that little rant, i dig dave cuz he's pretty talented (try learning the vocal and guitar parts to crash and try to tell me dave isn't musically gifted) and carter beauford is an awesome, AWESOME drummer who smiles and chews gum while he pulls off non-stop amazing sh*t on the traps. and rhythmically speaking, they are probably one of the most dynamic and cohesive bands on the planet, IMO. they blend complexity and imagination in such a way that the listener can make a decision about whether or not they want to become cerebrally provoked or just listen and smile cuz some dudes are having a good time with words, rhythms and sounds. they're playful and light-hearted... and dave's pretty sarcastic too. i like it.

He is really good at cross tempos/rhythms with his singing and guitar playing. The guitar playing in "crash" isn't terribly difficult, there's a pretty big stretch across the board, but its a different story when you sing along.

Saw them live at bonnaroo a few years back. Wasn't a big fan until then. They did some epic covers of "stairway to heaven", "needle and the damage done" and "all along the watchtower". Very talented band.

Hey Kelli, I like Funny the Way It Is, also. But I think the best song on Big Whiskey is "Time Bomb," if not for the very eerie and haunting beginning, the way it connects to the murder of Dave's sister in South Africa.

Very cool and creepy song, especially in light of recent disasters with violence. The guy the song is about could be anyone, really.

no one would ever know....not until I blew up...



if martians fell from the sky...what would that do to God? would we put the weapon down, or aim it up at the sky?

that's exactly what i meant. his hands and his voice are completely separated from each other rhythmically, and as a drummer that's a quality i have a lot of respect for.

It took me til after his debut album to really grasp what a talent he has. Certainly one of the better jam bands you can see live. I gravitate more towards his ballads for some reason, I think he has a real knack for songwriting. There is just something beautiful that comes out in his songs that really hits me at times. I'm kind of in and out listening to him, but he certainly has a gift for songwriting and his band as a foundation is pretty incredible in both studio and live format.

i'm not trying to change your mind or anything by saying this. i totally respect a honed appreciation like that. but have you listened to groo grux king? i like his ballads too, but the orchestration on some tracks on GGK is so perfectly explosive.... ugh. and i'm with you.. i don't listen to dmb all the time... very on and off. but when i do i f*cking love it.

annnnd i'm gonna go throw on GGK and dance like i'm autistic and probably play some air drums.:beer:

I feel a little less guilty about dragging this topic up again now.

By the way, do any of you DMB appreciators have a thing for "Spoon" like me? I can't explain how the violin and banjo parts of that song make me feel. Maybe someone else can...:)

The things he does rhythmically on the guitar is very interesting. Very interesting chord work.

I got all my metal head mates into DMB. When they first heard it they were like 'it's gay' now they deny that I got them into it as they are big fans! people are funny!!

I guess I should have stated i enjoy all of his music. I gravitate more towards his ballads, but I also enjoy his jam/rock music. GGK is an outstanding song indeed. I normally pop on DMB when i'm cooking or on a slow Sunday where I just wanna kick back and write a little bit on the computer.