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Old 04-15-2012, 08:57 AM   #171 (permalink)
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Yep, Closer is a far superior album in my view after listening to both.
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Old 04-23-2012, 03:54 PM   #172 (permalink)
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Yep, Closer is a far superior album in my view after listening to both.
I wouldn't so far as to say 'far superior', but I definitely prefer it to Unknown Pleasures for reasons of my own. They're both incredible albums in their own right.
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Old 04-24-2012, 04:18 AM   #173 (permalink)
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I can't believe how this band has become "indie" now.

Could've sworn they were part of the goth scene back then... /sigh
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Old 04-24-2012, 11:25 AM   #174 (permalink)
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I can't believe how this band has become "indie" now.

Could've sworn they were part of the goth scene back then... /sigh
Factory Records was one of the pioneering indie labels, and Joy Division were one of its bands. So I guess you say they were one of the original indie bands and the term "indie" has been associated with them for a very long time.

They were not part of the goth scene back then because there was no goth scene back then. Gothic rock didn't manifest itself until the early 80's after Joy Division were gone. But you can definitely say that they were an influence on it through bands like The Sisters Of Mercy, who started off as a Joy Division clone.
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Old 05-01-2012, 03:31 AM   #175 (permalink)
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Factory Records was one of the pioneering indie labels, and Joy Division were one of its bands. So I guess you say they were one of the original indie bands and the term "indie" has been associated with them for a very long time.

They were not part of the goth scene back then because there was no goth scene back then. Gothic rock didn't manifest itself until the early 80's after Joy Division were gone. But you can definitely say that they were an influence on it through bands like The Sisters Of Mercy, who started off as a Joy Division clone.
Indie was a poor choice of words, What I mean is kids who dig up old bands and pretend to love them just to be different, I don't know what these kids call themselves as I'm not too good with the lingo.... Hipsters? Maybe?
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Old 05-01-2012, 03:47 AM   #176 (permalink)
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why do you care so much about why other people listen to a band?
Does it really matter?
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Old 05-01-2012, 04:36 AM   #177 (permalink)
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why do you care so much about why other people listen to a band?
Does it really matter?
I don't.

It just annoys me that these people seem to think they're better than everyone else just because they have listened to a band... That's the case with people I know anyway, they really annoy me because people who like the band actually know more than one song. These people know one song and claim they are the greatest band in the world and for that reason they think they're better than everyone else.
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Old 05-01-2012, 05:31 AM   #178 (permalink)
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I know I'm definitely better than everybody else because I listen to Joy Division.
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Old 05-01-2012, 07:39 AM   #179 (permalink)
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I wouldn't so far as to say 'far superior', but I definitely prefer it to Unknown Pleasures for reasons of my own. They're both incredible albums in their own right.
completely opposite here

UP is more "immediate" whilst Closer is a bit too funereal and suicidal for me
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Old 05-01-2012, 07:45 AM   #180 (permalink)
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I know I'm definitely better than everybody else because I listen to Joy Division.
pfft I know that I'm better than you being better than everybody else because I don't listen to something as indirectly mainstream like Joy Division

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