Most Influential and Best Manchester Band

~~James~~ · 03-22-2010, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by right-track

Johnny Marr alone would qualify The Smiths as the best (musically) IMO.

^ As a best list, this fails.
For influence, I'd say you've got the top 4 in the right order...more or less.
The exception would have to be a swap of places. Smiths for Buzzcocks.

I was stuck on that ordering I love them both. But it was all in my opinion of course.

Revol · 03-22-2010, 01:43 PM

I think The Smiths might just pip it because of the amount of American bands influenced by them, along with the countless British acts, whereas the Roses are pretty unheard of across the pond. Although no-one can deny the legacy the Roses have left on British Alternative music.

TheCunningStunt · 03-22-2010, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by right-track

Johnny Marr alone would qualify The Smiths as the best (musically) IMO.

Yep, no one else plays the guitar like he does, even if he's not one of the best guitarists, I think he's one of the most unque.

What about John Squire as a musician? I think he was a decent guitarist but he doesn't seem to get any credit.

Waterfall is a brilliantly put together riff.

right-track · 03-22-2010, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by james44754

I was stuck on that ordering I love them both. But it was all in my opinion of course.

That's what it's all about mate.
If it wasn't for The Smiths (Marr), I'd have Joy Division as the best AND most influential.
However, there is an army of Fall fans who would fight me to the death over that point.
*Not that I've anything against The Fall...far from it.

To be perfectly honest, The Fall scare me to death. I've desperately avoided Smith and his music because I've seen what it's done to some of my friends.
Once you're addicted, you're hooked for life. Worse than heroin I'd say.
And I've already got one all consuming addiction with Northern Soul.
If Fall fans are the same as N.S. connoisseurs (and I suspect they are) then they divide there music tastes into two camps...The Fall and Everything Else.

Not that it's a bad place to be. Just another place I could do without being.

*hastily added to avoid Urban's death threats.

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Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt

What about John Squire as a musician? I think he was a decent guitarist but he doesn't seem to get any credit.

Waterfall is a brilliantly put together riff.

Squire spoiled himself for me after his Seahorses wankery.

TheCunningStunt · 03-22-2010, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by right-track

Squire spoiled himself for me after his Seahorses wankery.

It sounds like a good job I've never heard them

Squire's legacy hasn't been ruined in my eyes.

Revol · 03-24-2010, 12:47 PM

Meh, at least Squire has given up on music, whereas Ian Brown continues to be a shadow of his former self. He's alright live but it's just sad to see a once iconic figure of British music, and the epitome of ****ing cool, become someone reminiscent of a drunk chav dad trying to sing karaoke down the pub.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 03-24-2010, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by right-track

*hastily added to avoid Urban's death threats.

I've always known your position on MES, I know you already have your hands full with one musical obsession.

Having another one, well that's just showing off really.

right-track · 03-24-2010, 02:16 PM

The very thought of being drawn into the weird and wonderful world of The Fall, both fascinates and horrifies me.
I pity and envy Fall fans in equal measure.
I've got to say it's a very tempting prospect, but I know what I'm like. I won't be able to just listen on a casual basis and the fear of getting hooked mortifies me.
Their back catologue looks pretty daunting to say the least. :/

Maybe one day.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 03-24-2010, 02:19 PM

I thought I could handle it.

Just the occasional song on the Peel Sessions album I said. But it was no use lying to myself, I was hooked.

Remember ... Just say NO kids.

TheCunningStunt · 03-24-2010, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Revol

Meh, at least Squire has given up on music, whereas Ian Brown continues to be a shadow of his former self. He's alright live but it's just sad to see a once iconic figure of British music, and the epitome of ****ing cool, become someone reminiscent of a drunk chav dad trying to sing karaoke down the pub.

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Revol Clean Shirt Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Yorkshire - Home of the white rose, Emmerdale and the higest teen pregnancy rate. Posts: 68	Meh, at least Squire has given up on music, whereas Ian Brown continues to be a shadow of his former self. He's alright live but it's just sad to see a once iconic figure of British music, and the epitome of **ing cool, become someone reminiscent of a drunk chav dad trying to sing karaoke down the pub. __________________ Belligerent ghouls run Manchester schools, spineless swines, cemented minds...**

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Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	I thought I could handle it. Just the occasional song on the Peel Sessions album I said. But it was no use lying to myself, I was hooked. Remember ... Just say NO kids. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

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right-track Atchin' Akai Join Date: May 2005 Location: Unamerica Posts: 8,723	The very thought of being drawn into the weird and wonderful world of The Fall, both fascinates and horrifies me. I pity and envy Fall fans in equal measure. I've got to say it's a very tempting prospect, but I know what I'm like. I won't be able to just listen on a casual basis and the fear of getting hooked mortifies me. Their back catologue looks pretty daunting to say the least. :/ Maybe one day.