Stone Roses - S/T vs. Pixies - Dootlittle
Arguably the two most important Alternative albums to be released in 1989. Arguably two of the most important Alternative albums of all time. Without the Roses, there'd be no Oasis, without Pixies there'd be no Nirvana.
Musically they're styles apart but I think both bands have similar stories and parrallel histories, and as these two albums are considered to be the magnum opus of each respective band, I thought I'd do a little poll. But which one do you choose? For me, tough as it is, I'm going to go with The Stone Roses. The perfect pop album, brings back so many memories. Each track is an anthem, and the whole album is a soundtrack to a generation. Their songs still send shivers down my spine. Pixies, I love them and listening to their songs also give me a sense of nostalgia, but for me, Dootlittle is pipped by the Roses' debut. |
Stone Roses, easy
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Pixies, by an absolute country mile. Although I do prefer Surfer Rosa (****ing Gigantic!), I just really don't dig The Stone Roses at all.
So yeah. Doolittle. |
Really tough choice but in the end chose Doolittle because of it being one of the first albums I fell in love with although Stone Roses was the first album I got bought for me. In Doolittle I feel thattheres not a bad or dull moment and all songs have a differant feel and there is a better contrast between tracks whereas with Stone Roses the songs all have a taste of their signature "baggy" sound. Also midway through the Stone Roses I get kind of bored. Its quite strange that the OP mentioned britpop vs. grunge as although im picking Doolittle I prefer Britpop over Grunge.
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Stone Roses>Pixies.
It meant so much to so many, and still does if you're British or even Irish. |
Would anyone take offense if I change the title of the thread to "Landmark album for British Music vs. Landmark album for North American Music"? That's all what this thread is. I don't think us North Americans quite understand just how much of an impact the Britpop scene had on your music. Sure we got to hear Blur and Oasis go at it for number one but in the end it was just words on paper or images on screens, and I think not being there to experience it is really going to skew your idea of how much of an impact The Stone Roses had in jump starting that scene.
I dunno that's just my interpretation of the whole thing and for me it's going to be Doolittle because well... it's fucking Doolittle! I still remember sitting in my uncles car coming back from like... my 2nd or 3rd day at working in a lumber yard and him putting that album on and just being completely blown away. I had the day off the next day and immediately went out and got that album and enjoyed the hell out of it until I lent it to someone and it got stolen. Pixies have had a far greater impact on my guitar playing as they were one of the first bands I wanted to learn and if I ever get together with a band, regardless of what genre we play, we're doing a cover of "Tame". |
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Debaser is the only Pixies song I need... The Stone Roses and their s/t just don't do it for me.
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I give this poll question a Meh.
These are easily two of the best musical products of their time. I love them both and won't choose. |
Doolittle. Sure, The Stone Roses s/t is culturally significant and stuffed full with really decent pop songs - but Doolittle just packs more of a punch. There's more diversity in the songs and, I think, a greater creativity at its core.
Saying that, I dont care much for either scene these albums helped to spawn. |
The Stone Roses didn't make it across the pond, did they?
You guys missed out. |
As a fourteen year old boy from the US, The Pixies should effectively be my band. However, The Stone Roses' debut album changed my life with its brilliant melodies and chiming guitar. A perfect record, "The Stone Roses" easily overshadows The Pixies' "Doolittle" which, despite having some of the best, most awesomely angry material ever, contains too much filler for me to rate it above a 3.5 or so. That said, "Monkey Gone To Heaven" is a better song than anything on "The Stone Roses".
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Doolittle... filler?
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La La Love You, Crackity Jones, Silver etc...
Just a bit of a mess I guess. |
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Yeah, and 'Crackity Jones' is one of my favorites too...
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Doolittle hands down. And I love The Stone Roses' s/t.
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If we're talking about filler I think there's much more of it on the roses album.
I can pretty much listen to Doolittle the whole way through. I find the roses album drags in the middle. I would think stuff like Don't Stop, Bye Bye Badman, Elizabeth My Dear & Sugar Spun Sister are the epitome of filler tracks. |
Those are some of my favorites to be honest. I consider Waterfall and Don't Stop to be two parts of a whole considering how one flows into the next, but Bye Bye Badman and Sugar Spun Sister are killer. The bridge in Bye Bye Badman is one of my favorite parts. You know, the "I've got bad intentions" part. That's awesome. Elizabeth is effectively filler though. I like the track just because I've always loved variations on that Scarborough Faire melody.
The low point of the album for me is She Bangs The Drums. |
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One of the best songs on there. I don't get why some people think a few tracks are just filler tracks, I think they threw everything they had into this album, track by track it's a brilliant album. Then they put out a shower of shit on Second Coming. I often wonder what would've happened if they didn't sign with that wanker manager and they weren't legally banned from making albums. Momentum is a very important thing. |
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Oh great, now the word "filler" has entered into this already useless debate.
Can somebody define "filler" for me? Every time I see it used on MB it seems to mean "song I don't personally like". There's no way that Stone Roses or Pixies used "filler" to pad either of these albums to support a couple hits. For sure, Frank Black made every last one of his songs carefully. Maybe the Stone Roses were hungry enough for money that they'd do anything to top the charts but I like to think that didn't happen until Second Coming.. |
pixies - more depth if anhything to their music...
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Second Coming is quality.
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Hate them both. Whiney, screechy excuses for indie music...
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Has society really become so debased? |
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