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TheCunningStunt 04-23-2010 07:49 AM

5 Essential Indie albums
 
I was reading the Hip Hop thread, 5 essential albums for a hip hop noob and I was curious as to what people felt were essential Indie albums.

Let's say someone whose extent of Indie is The Kooks and The Pigeon detectives or someone who has never heard the genre. You have a chance to dazzel them with 5 albums, what 5 albums would you choose?

I'll do mine later. :thumb:

bungalow 04-23-2010 08:10 AM

ys-joanna newsom
the lonesome crowded west- modest mouse
either/or- elliott smith
f#a#∞- godspeed you black emperor
i can hear the heart beating as one- yo la tengo

not exactly sure what you mean by indie but that should do

Sneer 04-23-2010 08:25 AM

The Smiths - The Queen is Dead
Sebadoh - Bubble & Scrape
Archers of Loaf - Icky Mettle
Pavement - Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain
Elliott Smith - Either/Or

TheBig3 04-23-2010 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bungalow (Post 855357)
ys-joanna newsom
the lonesome crowded west- modest mouse
either/or- elliott smith
f#a#∞- godspeed you black emperor
i can hear the heart beating as one- yo la tengo

not exactly sure what you mean by indie but that should do

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu (Post 855364)
The Smiths - The Queen is Dead
Sebadoh - Bubble & Scrape
Archers of Loaf - Icky Mettle
Pavement - Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain
Elliott Smith - Either/Or

This actually brings up a point I was going to come in here and post. I feel like Hip Hop is working with a shorter period than Indie would be. Not that its bad, just expect no 2 lists to be the same. I'd say -

NMH - Aeroplane over the sea
YYY's - Is Is EP
TVotR - Return to Cookie Mountain
White Stripes - White Blood Cells
Gogol Bordello - Super Taranta!

Some obvious ones from me, I couldn't work in a MM album and I didn't know if Paullelujah counted since its "rap" but whatever, its me.

loveissucide 04-23-2010 10:50 AM

Radiator-Super Furry Animals
Crazy Rhythms-The Feelies
Summerteeth-Wilco
Heartworm-Whipping Boy
Alligator-The National

music_phantom13 04-24-2010 11:58 AM

Yeah, hip hop does have a pretty long 30 years or so but I feel you'd see a lot of the same albums; the sounds considered "indie" vary a lot more than what hip hop is... there's so many types of music grouped under the term.

Anyway, here's my 5:

Neutral Milk Hotel In The Aeroplane Over The Sea
The Unicorns - Who Will Cut Our Hair When You're Gone?
Defiance, Ohio - The Great Depression
Eels - Beautiful Freak
Sebadoh - Harmacy

I opted out of putting Dinosaur Jr. because I guess it's more noise rock than it is indie like all the other albums in here so far.

Bulldog 04-24-2010 01:03 PM

Hmm...

Various Artists - CD86
The Wedding Present - George Best
Gomez - Bring It On
Rainy Day - Rainy Day
Black Rebel Motorcycle Club - Take Them On On Your Own

^ Or something along those lines.

TheCunningStunt 04-24-2010 01:29 PM

Some good shouts in this thread :thumb:

NMH - In An Aeroplane Over The Sea
Modest Mouse - Good News For People Who Love Bad News
Titus Andronicus - Airing of Grievances
Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
Flaming Lips - Yoshimi Battles Pink Robots (If TFL can be counted as Indie.. I think they can.)

Off the top of my head, to give these albums to someone who doesn't really know what Indie is about would work wonders.

gotjuice 04-24-2010 02:35 PM

I tried to avoid some obvious ones (NMH, Arcade Fire, Bon Iver, etc.)

Pixies-Surfer Rosa
Thom Yorke-The Eraser
The National-Boxer
Sigur Ros-( )
Mew-No More Stories... (might be a bit of a stretch but it's staying)

Charlemagne 04-24-2010 04:42 PM

Hmm...


The Hold Steady- Boys and Girls in America
Neutral Milk Hotel- In the Aeroplane Over the Sea
The National- Alligator
The Mountain Goats- All Hail West Texas
Okkervil River- Black Sheep Boy

duga 04-24-2010 04:47 PM

As has been pointed out...all these lists are different.

There is no way to accurately make a top 5...indie encompasses so many different types of bands you may as well ask "give me a top 5 albums to start out of nowhere". Noble effort, but I doubt this thread would be much use to a newbie.

Unless you guys start giving descriptions of each one. I'm sure someone coming in here would already know the style they are partial to, and that way the lists might be a bit more help.

TheBig3 04-24-2010 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duga (Post 856180)
Unless you guys start giving descriptions of each one. I'm sure someone coming in here would already know the style they are partial to, and that way the lists might be a bit more help.

Or they could see which ones come up most often and listen to those.

Kamina 04-25-2010 01:05 AM

A reply.
 
Guided by Voices - Bee Thousand
Neutral Milk Hotel - In the Aeroplane Over the Sea
Arcade Fire - Funeral
The Magnetic Fields - 69 Love Songs
Elliott Smith - Either/Or

TheCunningStunt 04-25-2010 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gotjuice (Post 856105)
I tried to avoid some obvious ones (NMH, Arcade Fire, Bon Iver, etc.)

Pixies-Surfer Rosa
Thom Yorke-The Eraser
The National-Boxer
Sigur Ros-( )
Mew-No More Stories... (might be a bit of a stretch but it's staying)

Leaving out obvious ones isn't really the point of the thread.
If you think
In An Aeroplane Over The Sea
Funeral and
For Emma, Forever Ago
are essential Indie albums, then so be it..

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog (Post 856333)
Or they could see which ones come up most often and listen to those.

I.E NMH - In An Aeroplane Over The Sea

TheCunningStunt 04-25-2010 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duga (Post 856180)
As has been pointed out...all these lists are different.

There is no way to accurately make a top 5...indie encompasses so many different types of bands you may as well ask "give me a top 5 albums to start out of nowhere". Noble effort, but I doubt this thread would be much use to a newbie.

Unless you guys start giving descriptions of each one. I'm sure someone coming in here would already know the style they are partial to, and that way the lists might be a bit more help.

Even though they could just see what albums come up most and give them a listen. I did actually think people would tag a description along with each album.. Even a line would've been good.

gotjuice 04-25-2010 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt (Post 856401)
Leaving out obvious ones isn't really the point of the thread.
If you think
In An Aeroplane Over The Sea
Funeral and
For Emma, Forever Ago
are essential Indie albums, then so be it..

Sure, but those albums have already been posted and will more than likely be posted multiple times. I'd consider the 5 I posted just as essential as those, plus then I'm not just reposting something that's already been listed 3-4 times.

TheCunningStunt 04-25-2010 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gotjuice (Post 856411)
Sure, but those albums have already been posted and will more than likely be posted multiple times. I'd consider the 5 I posted just as essential as those, plus then I'm not just reposting something that's already been listed 3-4 times.

Fair enough, I kind of made the thread because I thought people would post why the album they chose is more essential than an 'obvious album'

Say, I want to know why your 5 albums are more essential than NMH (even though they're an obvious one, I don't think you can get more essential than that)

Bulldog 04-25-2010 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt (Post 856406)
Even though they could just see what albums come up most and give them a listen. I did actually think people would tag a description along with each album.. Even a line would've been good.

Nah, too much like hard work :p:

...I'll probably edit one or two in out of sheer boredom later though.

TheCunningStunt 04-25-2010 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bulldog (Post 856472)
Nah, too much like hard work :p:

...I'll probably edit one or two in out of sheer boredom later though.

:laughing:

I've seen people on this site go out of their way to write a 5 paragraph rant about certain topics, and when I say 'people' I mean booboo. :p:

Bulldog 04-25-2010 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt (Post 856474)
:laughing:

I've seen people on this site go out of their way to write a 5 paragraph rant about certain topics, and when I say 'people' I mean booboo. :p:

Don't get wrong, I do that sometimes myself. Just wasn't really feeling the vibes when I posted my list :D

TheCunningStunt 04-25-2010 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bulldog (Post 856477)
Don't get wrong, I do that sometimes myself. Just wasn't really feeling the vibes when I posted my list :D

And you call yourself a mod. You should go the extra mile! Letting the MB team down. ;)

gotjuice 04-25-2010 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt (Post 856412)
Fair enough, I kind of made the thread because I thought people would post why the album they chose is more essential than an 'obvious album'

Say, I want to know why your 5 albums are more essential than NMH (even though they're an obvious one, I don't think you can get more essential than that)

Well, in all fairness, I didn't say mine were more essential than NMH, I said just as essential:p: Obviously NMH is an indie rock cornerstone, but for me personally, discoveries like Boxer, Sigur Ros, etc. shaped my musical vision and development just as much as NMH did. They're all so original and still unmatched. So to me, they're all essential. Hence why they made my list:)

Violent & Funky 04-25-2010 11:15 PM

It's gonna be America-heavy because I prefer their brand of indie rock:

Daydream Nation - Sonic Youth
Surfer Rosa - Pixies
Slanted & Enchanted - Pavement
You're Living All Over Me - Dinosaur Jr.
13 Songs - Fugazi

I want this poor noob to get a solid base and hear the influences before they move on to modern indie... :D

Stinkfist 04-25-2010 11:40 PM

In no order

1. Interpol - Antics
2. Arcade Fire - Funeral
3. Arctic Monkeys - Whatever People Say I Am, Thats What Im Not.
4. The Strokes - Is This It
5. Modest Mouse - Good News... Or. We Were Dead...

A very generic list I know but 5 that everyone should have and as good a place to start as any.

debaserr 04-26-2010 12:29 AM

Modest Mouse - Lonesome Crowded West Face-melting


Pixies - Doolittle - Can't leave this off.


The Unicorns - Who Will Cut Our Hair When We're Gone? - Gorgeous playful soundscape. A bit proggy too.


Wolf Parade - Apologies To The Queen Mary



Slint - Spiderland - On first listen, this didn't do much for me. After giving it a proper review, it blew me away.

Zer0 04-26-2010 04:25 PM

Might as well throw in my 5:

1. The Stone Roses - The Stone Roses
2. Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures
3. The Smiths - The Queen Is Dead
4. Pixies - Doolittle
5. Arcade Fire - Funeral

Those 5 are a great starting point.

TheCunningStunt 04-26-2010 04:31 PM

^

Very solid.

I left out Doolittle because I felt it was more Alternative than Indie.. but meh, I should've really put it in. It's an essential.

Zer0 04-26-2010 04:39 PM

Pixies can fall into both really. The alternative rock scene in the 80's was pretty much the american indie movement. There was no real difference between the two at the time.

TheCunningStunt 04-26-2010 04:43 PM

Aye, Indie rock is a very loose term I feel. Even bands on major labels, I'd say yeah they're an Indie band.. just because they make music that sounds Indie. But I wanted these lists to be as Indie as possible, so I left out stuff like Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not.

Good list though, I think if you gave them to someone who had only ever heard mainstream music their life would change.

debaserr 04-26-2010 04:44 PM

i left off radiohead but really wanted to include them.

Urban Hat€monger ? 04-26-2010 04:48 PM

4AD was about the indiest of indie labels there was.

TheCunningStunt 04-26-2010 05:15 PM

Didn't know The Pixies were on 4AD, I might have to revisit my list and get Doolittle on there.

GravitySlips 04-26-2010 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Violent & Funky (Post 857189)
It's gonna be America-heavy because I prefer their brand of indie rock:

Daydream Nation - Sonic Youth
Surfer Rosa - Pixies
Slanted & Enchanted - Pavement
You're Living All Over Me - Dinosaur Jr.
13 Songs - Fugazi

I want this poor noob to get a solid base and hear the influences before they move on to modern indie... :D

It's funny, if I had to think of the 5 albums that first turned me on to music beyond the realm hardcore punk, it would probably be these 5. Excellent list!

Here's 5 of my favourite albums that I could call 'indie':

beat happening you turn me on
the clean anthology
guided by voices bee thousand
yo la tengo painful
ride nowhere

Violent & Funky 04-26-2010 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GravitySlips (Post 857642)
It's funny, if I had to think of the 5 albums that first turned me on to music beyond the realm hardcore punk, it would probably be these 5. Excellent list!

Here's 5 of my favourite albums that I could call 'indie':

beat happening you turn me on
the clean anthology
guided by voices bee thousand
yo la tengo painful
ride nowhere

Thanks, fella. I've downloaded Bee Thousand but haven't given it a thorough listen yet. Plus, I will prolly get myself a Beat Happening album once I get to that chapter in Our Band Could Be Your Life...

TheCunningStunt 04-27-2010 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrHipHop (Post 858232)
I have only one in mind

The Smiths - The Queen is Dead

I know you're Mr Hip Hop but surely you can think of 4 more?!

RVCA 04-27-2010 09:46 PM

Alright, can someone explain NMH to me? A while ago, I read an interview with Jesse Lacey (singer/songwriter of Brand New) who cited that In the Aeroplane was one of his central influences in making music. So I acquired the album and gave it a listen, and wrote it off as simply not that good.

Recently, I've start browsing these forums on a daily basis and I see this specific album being mentioned quite frequently. Apparently, it's one of the best indie albums ever. I couldn't believe it, so I gave it another listen.

Still not good.

Another listen.

Still not good. Do I just lack the proper appreciation for music? Is something wrong with me? I find NMH to be poorly composed and produced, boring, and worst of all, the singer is quite terrible. Some lyrics are profound and interesting, but then I hear "Semen stains the mountaintops" repeated over and over...

bleh

TheCunningStunt 04-27-2010 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RVCA (Post 858512)
Alright, can someone explain NMH to me? A while ago, I read an interview with Jesse Lacey (singer/songwriter of Brand New) who cited that In the Aeroplane was one of his central influences in making music. So I acquired the album and gave it a listen, and wrote it off as simply not that good.

Recently, I've start browsing these forums on a daily basis and I see this specific album being mentioned quite frequently. Apparently, it's one of the best indie albums ever. I couldn't believe it, so I gave it another listen.

Still not good.

Another listen.

Still not good. Do I just lack the proper appreciation for music? Is something wrong with me? I find NMH to be poorly composed and produced, boring, and worst of all, the singer is quite terrible. Some lyrics are profound and interesting, but then I hear "Semen stains the mountaintops" repeated over and over...

bleh

There's something wrong with you.

RVCA 04-27-2010 10:51 PM

Well, I suppose that's the easiest explanation.

Maybe I'm just destined to be one of those people who only enjoys the popular stuff and who has no true appreciation for the more influential and important artists/albums in music.

downwardspiral 04-28-2010 03:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt (Post 857531)
^ Very solid. I left out Doolittle because I felt it was more Alternative than Indie.. but meh, I should've really put it in. It's an essential.

yeah. pretty much this. it is one of my all time favourite albums though.

so many good shouts in this thread. here's my two cents, although it's probably just going to be a reiterated list:

elliott smith - either/or
arcade fire - funeral
les savy fav - let's stay friends (this one is probably going to cause some debate as to whether they're indie or not, i guess they're not predominantly indie and they have some math rock influence but let me have it anyway! it's a flucking good album)
interpol - turn on the bright lights
yeah yeah yeahs - show your bones

sidewinder 04-28-2010 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RVCA (Post 858512)
Alright, can someone explain NMH to me? A while ago, I read an interview with Jesse Lacey (singer/songwriter of Brand New) who cited that In the Aeroplane was one of his central influences in making music. So I acquired the album and gave it a listen, and wrote it off as simply not that good.

Recently, I've start browsing these forums on a daily basis and I see this specific album being mentioned quite frequently. Apparently, it's one of the best indie albums ever. I couldn't believe it, so I gave it another listen.

Still not good.

Another listen.

Still not good. Do I just lack the proper appreciation for music? Is something wrong with me? I find NMH to be poorly composed and produced, boring, and worst of all, the singer is quite terrible. Some lyrics are profound and interesting, but then I hear "Semen stains the mountaintops" repeated over and over...

bleh

http://www.musicbanter.com/general-m...nd-thread.html :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by downwardspiral (Post 858605)
les savy fav - let's stay friends (this one is probably going to cause some debate as to whether they're indie or not, i guess they're not predominantly indie and they have some math rock influence but let me have it anyway! it's a flucking good album)

Math Rock falls under the indie rock umbrella, as does a lot of post hardcore which is part of LSV's sound and influence too.

That's the problem with indie as a genre is that everyone thinks it only includes bands with a specific sound now. Bands that were originally indie before it became a sound (including LSV) are now being questioned.


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