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Old 05-23-2010, 11:14 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Joy Division vs The Smiths

I thought there's a lot of pointless comparison threads knocking about, and here's one more. They're both different and both absolutely brilliant in their own right but I'm wondering who you think is the better band and/or who your favourite is.

These are two of my favourite bands, I love Joy Divsion.. I think Ian Curtis was such a brilliant lyricist and the music, such moodiness and at times very haunting with brilliant drumming. Lyrics and music are just devine.

The Smiths however you have Morrissey's sharp wit and depressing lyrics over Johnny Marr's melodic happy tunes, such a contrast and it made for some brilliant music.

Overall if I had to pick one, I'd go for The Smiths. But it's a close one.
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Old 05-23-2010, 11:26 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Joy Division.
Why? Because Curtis was a genius.
Even Hannett didn't know what he had with Curtis. Had he known, his own self indulgence would have embarrassed him.
Both Morrissey and Curtis were masters of all things personal, but no other artist in the history of music has been more honest than Curtis.
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Old 05-23-2010, 05:51 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Why? Because Curtis was a genius. So was Morrissey though.. If you ask me tomorrow, I might say I prefer Joy Division. I listen to JD a lot more than The Smiths lately.

I thought this thread would spark more interest. Rolling Stones vs Aerosmith attracted more. Both incomparable bands. At least these two are from the same time period and from the same area.
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Old 05-25-2010, 06:52 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Smiths, the whole way. I was never massive on Joy Division, although I can see why other people were.
The smiths just always managed to balance out the misery with an entirely British sense of tongue in cheek possibility, you know? Even if oftentimes this was provided purely by Marr's sometimes jaunty guitar.
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The smiths just always managed to balance out the misery with an entirely British sense of tongue in cheek possibility, you know? Even if oftentimes this was provided purely by Marr's sometimes jaunty guitar.
It's also delivered with a sense of humour. Something that seems to be lost to a lot of people.

Am I the only one to put Joy Division ahead of The Smiths?
The Smiths peddle their wares for the teen misfits, while Curtis & Co. deal in industrial misery.
Depression for grown ups...just how I like it!
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Old 05-26-2010, 10:19 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Wow, this is a hard one. Two of my favourite bands. At a stretch I'd say Joy Division, with two albums and an EP that band made such an indelible impact on British music.
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I'd have to go with Joy Division, but only by a whisker, both bands are excellent in their own rights.
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Old 05-26-2010, 11:21 AM   #8 (permalink)
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This is one of those threads where I can't honestly compare them. I love both bands and listen to both when I am in completely different moods.

But, I'll still bite. Joy Division only because Curtis paved the way for even the Smiths to be so emotionally honest in their lyrics. Joy Division was largely ignored by the mainstream because of their "depressing" lyrics, but that is what got them the recognition they deserve. Before them, no one was so painfully true in what they were singing, and after them the floodgates were opened. You have to take it with the good and bad, obviously, since this is the origin of teen angst bands. But I can deal with the crap for the amount of good music that resulted. The first band that pops in my head thinking of this is the Jesus and Mary Chain. And yes, the Smiths as well.
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As much as i love both bands i have to pick Joy Division. Their music just feels closer to the bone and hits the spot more than The Smiths. Joy Division are the ultimate band to listen to sitting in a dark room and wallowing in depression, something i love doing. While both Moz and Curtis wrote incredible lyrics i prefer Curtis' songs as he was one of the most honest songwriters of all time and he told it as it was, listening to his lyrics is like drinking straight whiskey. Peter Hook is one of my favourite bass players, his work with both JD and New Order are incredible.

I think Joy Division had a greater impact on music than The Smiths did. They paved the way for the likes of The Cure, Bauhaus and The Sisters Of Mercy to provide us with dark, brooding, gloomy music that would spawn the whole goth culture over time, as well as other great bands in the 80's such as Echo and The Bunnymen and The Jesus and Mary Chain.
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Old 05-26-2010, 05:47 PM   #10 (permalink)
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After an early serge of people going for The Smiths, Joy Division have pulled it back. Rightfully so, Curtis was nothing short of a genius. But so was Morrissey.

The main reason why I made this thread is because people who like one band tend to like the other. It's nice to find out people's preferences if it came down to it. Like I said, The Smiths for me. But Joy Division on another day.
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