Franz Ferdinand dont try to be rock. Other people call them rock but they keep saying they're pop. They completely rock my socks. Gets my vote.

ive seen them be referred to as art-pop. thats probably the most reasonable description. i always thought guitar-pop was reasonable too.

Kerrang! had to say art-rockers when they won 'Best British Rock Act' God damned Alex was surprised...

seems their too mainstream to be considered as rock now

You call them a boy band, but then you admit to liking the most overplayed song of 2004......:confused:

that has nothing to do with anything Soundgardener..... are you restricting me from liking the songs boy bands make??? come on.

Franz Ferdinand could be a cheesy euro pop band for all I care. Matinee is still great

yeah your sooooo right all of the bands coming out of europe should be called boy bands because they have a crappy song on mtv for the whole year... I guess we can certify these as boy bands: Kaiser Chiefs, and the Bravery... what a genius

Fails miserablly? And there was a time, youngin, where rock and pop were the same damn thing. And you could say the same thing for dance. Know your history. And frankly, I think alot of ST rocked. So I don't know that failed very miserablly is an accurate depiction. Jack Johnson fails miserably at rocking (that is no critique on his music) because hes too sedate. But I think FF has enough energy to rock much better than miserably.

Well if you're listing those two you might as well put The Killers in there as well.