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WWWP 07-22-2008 02:00 AM

I've only heard "Take Me Out" which I enjoyed.

sweet_nothing 07-22-2008 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 499528)
I still have'nt heard their second album. Their debut did nothing for me when it came out but now all the hype has died down I am finding myself popping this on at work a little more. 'Take Me Out' is of course a great track but 'The Dark Of The Matinee' and 'Michael' are damn good too. It seems to have dated less and have more longevity than a lot of white boy guitar bands from Britain in the last few years.

Consider yourself lucky, don't waste your time on it.

Rainard Jalen 07-22-2008 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by sweet_nothing (Post 499787)
Consider yourself lucky, don't waste your time on it.

What a load of patent nonsense. It's a fine album with numerous good songs, good to great lyrics and some interesting experimental touches. It is not so much a departure from the quality of the debut like the second pile of crap released by the Libertines.

Piss Me Off 07-22-2008 04:10 AM

I'm quite the Ferdy fan it has to be said, and i think they've always deserved a bit of hype even with hindsight.
And jesus there's nothing wrong with the 2nd album, in fact for quite a while i thought it was better than the first (not sure about that now though). Don't see why it gets so much bad press. It's those same dancey songs but with a harder edge, what's not to like?
New album soon, yays.

Seltzer 07-22-2008 04:36 AM

Franz Ferdinand has always been the band I thought I'd never like, but I was pleasantly surprised when I listened to their first album (long ago!). But I still haven't got around to listening to their second album yet.

KJOK 07-23-2008 11:13 AM

They are not a rock band, they are pop.

sweet_nothing 07-24-2008 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sweet_nothing (Post 499787)
Consider yourself lucky, don't waste your time on it.

Perhaps this was a bit harsh, I just found the album boring and dissapointing, and just a waste of my money. Perfer the first maybe the 3rd will be just as good or better that their last.
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Originally Posted by Rainard Jalen (Post 499794)
What a load of patent nonsense. It's a fine album with numerous good songs, good to great lyrics and some interesting experimental touches. It is not so much a departure from the quality of the debut like the second pile of crap released by the Libertines.

An attack at me? Well I might actual care about that if I still liked the Libertines.

sweet_nothing 08-21-2008 01:29 AM

I really like the new single.

Lucid Dreams

Thoughts?

Piss Me Off 08-21-2008 04:29 AM

Classic Franz but with more bleepy sounds. I haven't really heard it a lot though because the copy of it i've got someones recorded off the radio or something and their MSN goes off :s

sweet_nothing 08-21-2008 04:56 AM

I'm actually starting to like the second album.

insinkerator 08-21-2008 12:42 PM

Is anyone going to see them at electric picnic in Ireland?? I wish i was!

sweet_nothing 08-21-2008 05:16 PM

I wish they would come to America most of these bands from the UK just tour the UK and Europe and Australia .

sweet_nothing 01-28-2009 07:13 PM

So I got the new album yesterday and sounds like much of what they been doing in the past with some dabs of electronia. The album is pretty stale for me I cant pick out a fav track. I might give it another listen though.

adidasss 01-29-2009 03:52 AM

Well, like I said in the album thread, I don't think it's as good as their previous albums, but it's still very good and fun to listen to. I like all the songs except for the last two. It goes to their credit that they've managed to keep my attention for 3 albums, unlike their contemporaries The killers and Bloc Party. And The Rakes...:\

Rainard Jalen 01-29-2009 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 587235)
Well, like I said in the album thread, I don't think it's as good as their previous albums, but it's still very good and fun to listen to. I like all the songs except for the last two. It goes to their credit that they've managed to keep my attention for 3 albums, unlike their contemporaries The killers and Bloc Party. And The Rakes...:\

word. though personally i don't like it particularly less than "you could have so much more". though where "YCHSMM" shone, it really did.

Molecules 01-29-2009 05:18 AM

I've always been willing to forgive Franz Ferdinand for their generic unoriginal dance-rock because they are:
a) first and foremost a pop group by their own admission

b) at least tried to be cool by appearing on the Fall documentary and generally bigging up brilliant Scottish post-punk of the 80's, so they listen to good music at least

c) last week's appearance on 'the Culture Show', which went in-depth into the making of their last album. It sounds horrible (jumping on the electro-revival bandwagon much?) but they seem like a nice intelligent bunch. Plus none of them are ugly :D

Rainard Jalen 01-29-2009 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Molecules (Post 587258)
I've always been willing to forgive Franz Ferdinand for their generic unoriginal dance-rock because they are:
a) first and foremost a pop group by their own admission

b) at least tried to be cool by appearing on the Fall documentary and generally bigging up brilliant Scottish post-punk of the 80's, so they listen to good music at least

c) last week's appearance on 'the Culture Show', which went in-depth into the making of their last album. It sounds horrible (jumping on the electro-revival bandwagon much?) but they seem like a nice intelligent bunch. Plus none of them are ugly :D

Generic? Pfft. In the present market, Franz stand apart from most the other dance-rock trash. They don't sound especially like any other cluster of bands around at the moment, and they have the advantage of actually being able to write *songs* (there's a novel idea). The point that Kapranov (or whatever his name is) actually has an ear for hooks and melody makes him a rare talent among those trying to make similar types of music these days. Add to that the point that they genuinely are doing it all in their own quite clearly distinctive way, and you have a band that breaks beyond the ranks of those who truly do earn adjectives like 'generic'.

Molecules 01-29-2009 05:37 AM

meh, they just sound like an amalgam of the (much-exploited during the music press' 'post-punk revival') Gang of Four sound and Orange Juice/Fire Engines (Postcard Records bands in general) to me... although this isn't a bad thing as I said but they just seem like an inferior rehash of those bands, who also had an ear for tunes and hooks.

But you can't go around just disliking bands for sounding like other ones (that's the foundation of music 99% of the time right?) so I'll just say I find them personally a bit annoying. The synchronized stepping moves being one reason :D

adidasss 01-29-2009 05:45 AM

I've never heard anything remotely as good, catchy or danceable by Gang of four, so I really don't understand the comparison. They had a beat too, that's about as far as that parallel goes.

Molecules 01-29-2009 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 587264)
I've never heard anything remotely as good, catchy or danceable by Gang of four, so I really don't understand the comparison. They had a beat too, that's about as far as that parallel goes.

it's all a matter of opinion i suppose, but i think GoF definitely had the proverbial funk, and without their pared-down politicized groove there wouldn't be an FF, i'm 100% positive that Alex Kapranos would tell you the same. I suppose I just find it easier to get behind what GoF stood for, FF do not make me think.

As for the pop angle, this is what I was saying I preferred (I am aware of the fact that guitar-pop goes in cycles because everything has already been done with the medium). All Scottish bands aswell :D

YouTube - orange juice - rip it up



edit: this is weird i feel like i'm having a discussion with James Franco... please be kind :p

adidasss 01-29-2009 06:26 AM

You really think either of those songs is as good as anything Franz has done? Maybe I'm just not a fan of trash, in film or in music, but I just don't see it...I like my glossy production. :\

Incidentally, are you some kind of homosexual dear fellow? You are a fellow aren't you?

Edit: Also, I think there's a rather substantial difference between dance punk or post punk (which I think GoF would fall under) and dance rock, the latter being much poppier/less dissonant (who said rock can't be catchy?). I think a worthier parallel (with GoF) would have been to Bloc party or Young knives (at least their first albums).

Molecules 01-29-2009 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 587276)
You really think either of those songs is as good as anything Franz has done? Maybe I'm just not a fan of trash, in film or in music, but I just don't see it...I like my glossy production. :\

Incidentally, are you some kind of homosexual dear fellow? You are a fellow aren't you?

:yikes: each to their own, i'm not an FF hater, the only reason that old stuff sound unpolished is it's old, modern studio production suffers in the made-for-radio volume wars too much for my ears sometimes. I only have own two FF songs 'Take Me Out' and 'the Fallen', both I like

And I'd rather not go into details here but yes i am a gentleman. However my gender is up for grabs if you put 'New York Dolls' on :p:

edit: re your edit - good point, I think Orange Juice fit dance punk bill tho!? :(

adidasss 01-29-2009 06:42 AM

Well dear fellow, you should really get a hold of an album or two, they are quite smashing.

adidasss 01-31-2009 01:47 AM

Yeah, didn't like the remixes of Tonight, at all. Kinda annoying in fact...

sweet_nothing 07-05-2009 01:01 AM

So I'm faced with a dilemma. Franz Ferdinand are coming to Texas which they very rarely do and I'd love to see them but they is a catch they're opening for Green Day. How could a band like Franz Ferdinand that has headlined the Bonnaroo festival and played at Glastonbury be an opening act for a mediocre band like Green Day? A group of faux punk rockers, men in their late 30's that still wear eyeliner. And for any of you willing to protest me calling them faux punk I told my mother about wanting to see Franz Ferdinand but how I didn't want to watch Green Day to which she replied "what's wrong with Green Day I like them?" yes she apparently likes Green Day, for me that takes away all their creditability as a punk band. But anyway I really want to see Franz Ferdinand (I thought Tonight was pretty good but neither it or it's predecessor come close to the greatness of their debut album) but I don't wanna pay $100 to see them play for 30 mins and there is no way I'd stick around for Green Day. I can understand a band like Franz Ferdinand having trouble filling a 12000 seat arena in a state like Texas but there are much better bands to open for, also I'm sure smaller venues would welcome you with open arms. Franz, You Could Have Had It So Much Better :(

adidasss 07-05-2009 03:25 AM

A 100 fucking dollars? Da-ha-yum...

Anyhoo, if I had the money, I'd go see both. Franz are fantastic live (although I think I may be a slightly bigger fan than you) and have improved immensely over the last few years. They'll have an excellent sound system supporting Green Day. Plus, I'm not really sure why you have such a major problem with GD, they're just a rock band, and they're likely to put on a good show...:\

sweet_nothing 07-05-2009 02:10 PM

Well GD probably will put on a good performance, but how could I really enjoy it if I'm not a fan of the music?

adidasss 07-06-2009 02:19 AM

Like, at all? I mean, I'm not a major fan either but they have some fun tunes...:\

Dunno dude, you're in a pickle. I had a similar situation a few years back when The Bravery was opening for Depeche mode (whom I don't like). I passed on it, but mostly because I'd already seen The Bravery in Bologna...they're not nearly as good as FF though..:\

FETCHER. 08-13-2009 02:38 PM

take me out is the only song i really know, i should start looking into more than just the most popular song. im terrible for it :O

DIDIPP 10-07-2009 09:32 PM

FF Presentation at VMB (it saved the night, really).
YouTube - Franz Ferdinand - VMB 2009 - No You Girls

Violent & Funky 06-13-2010 04:57 PM

My last.fm station played this remix of Franz Ferdinand's 'The Fallen' and I have been listening to it nonstop today:


wexy 06-15-2010 07:27 AM

neither here nor there.

Scissorman 06-15-2010 03:54 PM

this is probably the only band I dislike almost as much as I dislike Tokio Hotel

TheBig3 06-24-2010 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by wexy (Post 883058)
neither here nor there.

is this a Eugene Mirman reference?

Abortion; Not here, nor there!

Key 04-12-2012 07:43 PM

I absolutely love the Tonight: Franz Ferdinand album. The title track, Ulysses opens the album pretty damn well, then the rest of the album goes along very smoothly. The self titled Franz Ferdinand still remains to be my favorite, but this one definitely packs a punch.

AyChispas 04-18-2012 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Scissorman (Post 883317)
this is probably the only band I dislike almost as much as I dislike Tokio Hotel

May I ask why? I can understand why some people find them boring and mainstream, but to hate them as much as Tokio Hotel..?! That's a bit extreme, isn't it? :laughing: I'm just curious.

daviddouglas 04-24-2012 03:59 AM

I honestly don't know that many, but No you girls and Take me out are top tunes!

Croatian Masochist 08-11-2012 09:43 PM

Take Me Out, Michael, and The Fallen are amazing. I used to absolutely love Ulysses, but I listened to it too much and got over it.

I think their debut was their best, and they got less interesting from that point. Franz Ferdinand: Live was fairly mediocre in my opinion. I guess it was kinda sterile and too pop-y.

Inna Selez 12-04-2017 12:33 PM

Song from upcoming album!

Inna Selez 01-09-2018 01:23 PM

Another single.


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