The Libertines (lyrics, indie, pop, punk, single)

Rainard Jalen · 03-02-2008, 05:37 AM

Pete and Carl were kinda good together in that they could combine ideas and play into each other. It seems obvious that Carl was more responsible for the musical side of the Libs, and Pete probably the lyrics. Which shows in their solo careers: Dirty Pretty Things has music that's not far off the Libs in terms of basic sound (though is still complete crap) and terrible lyrics, and the Babyshambles, well, what can we say about Babyshambles? Sigh.

Pete would only be any good as the lyricist alongside a person who's at least a bit of a songsmith. As for Carl, I don't think he'll ever do anything good again.

Alex Turner of the Arctics has more talent than both of them combined in one fingernail.

monellia · 03-02-2008, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainard Jalen

Pete and Carl were kinda good together in that they could combine ideas and play into each other. It seems obvious that Carl was more responsible for the musical side of the Libs, and Pete probably the lyrics. Which shows in their solo careers: Dirty Pretty Things has music that's not far off the Libs in terms of basic sound and terrible lyrics, and the Babyshambles, well, what can we say about Babyshambles?

Yes.

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Alex Turner of the Arctics has more talent than both of them combined in one fingernail.

Maybe now, but back in the day? Blasphemy!

monellia · 03-02-2008, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainard Jalen

Alex Turner of the Arctics has more talent than both of them combined in one fingernail.

Actually I misread this in the context of Alex Turner having more talent than Pete and Carl as a collaboration, i.e. working together.

OH NO YOU DID-ENT

Rainard Jalen · 03-02-2008, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by monellia

Actually I misread this in the context of Alex Turner having more talent than Pete and Carl as a collaboration, i.e. working together.

OH NO YOU DID-ENT

My argument: Turner has written more good songs alone over the course of two albums and an EP than there are on all the Libertines LPs and EPs. Not by a great margin, by a small margin - but CRUCIALLY, he did it alone. No collabs... except on maximally one or two tracks.

monellia · 03-03-2008, 11:41 AM

If you consider his songs to be good then we obvz harbor differing opinions on what makes a good song but in any case diligence and productivity do not necessarily indicate a good talent.

Rainard Jalen · 03-03-2008, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by monellia

If you consider his songs to be good then we obvz harbor differing opinions on what makes a good song but in any case diligence and productivity do not necessarily indicate a good talent.

No. But very clever lyrics and great tunes do.

sweet_nothing · 03-03-2008, 02:52 PM

All in all you do think was the brains behind the band Carl or Pete?

Rainard Jalen · 03-03-2008, 02:59 PM

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All in all you do think was the brains behind the band Carl or Pete?

Both, for sure. Carl, more on the music side, and Pete probably more on the lyrical side.

03-02-2008, 05:37 AM	#1 (permalink)
Rainard Jalen Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,219	Pete and Carl were kinda good together in that they could combine ideas and play into each other. It seems obvious that Carl was more responsible for the musical side of the Libs, and Pete probably the lyrics. Which shows in their solo careers: Dirty Pretty Things has music that's not far off the Libs in terms of basic sound (though is still complete crap) and terrible lyrics, and the Babyshambles, well, what can we say about Babyshambles? Sigh. Pete would only be any good as the lyricist alongside a person who's at least a bit of a songsmith. As for Carl, I don't think he'll ever do anything good again. Alex Turner of the Arctics has more talent than both of them combined in one fingernail.

03-03-2008, 11:41 AM	#5 (permalink)
monellia Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Oirland Posts: 81	If you consider his songs to be good then we obvz harbor differing opinions on what makes a good song but in any case diligence and productivity do not necessarily indicate a good talent.