Why Weezer WHY!?

Neapolitan · 01-01-2013, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis

lol yea that's true

idk Sh%t about what's emo or not, but to me in the blue album the way that river sings sounds like bands like Dashboard confessional or all american rejects..

it's the way the voice breaks into that whinny refined emo style of singing..

idk how to explain it properly, srry.

I don't know much about emo too. I thought Adam Lambert and 30 Seconds to Mars were either emo or had touches of emo to them via vocal style.

MglTerc · 01-04-2013, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeATLBraves24

This write-up puts it into words better than I could (remove the spaces, I'm not allowed to post links because of post count):

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I think the main reason is the change in material Rivers has written about. He has gone from writing meaningful songs to generic, hollow pop songs. Compare "Only In Dreams" or "Pink Triangle" to "We Are All On Drugs" or "Troublemaker." The passion is long gone and has been replaced with calculated, contrived fluff. I think it extends to the music as well. Take the Green Album for example. Rivers' vocals are glazed over; it sounds like he has had the soul siphoned out of him. It's like Weezer has been censored. The sincerity that made them great just doesn't exist in their music anymore.

I couldn't agree more. Even though their albums past Pinkerton were passable, they just didn't wow me or pack the emotional punch that The Blue Album and Pinkerton had.

Even the songs that were not all that emotional were able to stand on their own as great songs with meaning, In The Garage, Holiday and Surf Wax America didn't dwell into deep emotional context but still provided something meaningful and real that a listener could relate to. We Are All On Drugs, Troublemaker and even (If You're Wondering If I Want You To) I Want You To just sound like attempts to seem cool. It just doesn't feel real anymore.

It's very sad because in a way I feel that Rivers did this on purpose due to the Pinkerton backlash.

Ghost Jam · 01-04-2013, 02:08 PM

I have no idea what the **** "emo" is...nor do I really care.

I was having this exact discussion some time ago regarding Weezer, and the point I was trying to make was that not only did Weezer jump off a serious cliff artistically speaking, but they were one of the few bands I could think of that did so so badly that the dive actually tarnished their initial brilliance.

One of the things I love so much about Weezer and Pinkerton was the band's ability to paint a thick, dark streak of cynicism across the universe of pink adolescent tragedy.

What subsequent records by Weezer suggested was that the black streak was accidental. That whatever that green album thing was was what Weezer had been trying to get at all along, and we were all duped into thinking that there was a tongue in a cheek when there was none to begin with.

That aside, I do still love their first two records, and simply pretend that the band was crashed into by a double decker bus following their sophomore effort. That tends to work for me.

-The World Has Turned and Left Me Ghost Jam

Forward To Death · 01-04-2013, 03:02 PM

I always compare them to Green Day. Both are rock bands with a heavy dose of poppiness, both had a great album followed by a decent album, and both fell the **** off big time.

However, that's more than most mainstream rock bands.

Buzz Wascomb · 04-18-2013, 07:08 PM

The early stuff was great but it just got worse and worse. He admitted it in a way. He said he wished he was playing songs written by Jud

Socialginga · 04-19-2013, 01:35 PM

money changes people

04-18-2013, 07:08 PM	#35 (permalink)
Buzz Wascomb Groupie Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 12	Agreed The early stuff was great but it just got worse and worse. He admitted it in a way. He said he wished he was playing songs written by Jud

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Ghost Jam Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 107	I have no idea what the **** "emo" is...nor do I really care. I was having this exact discussion some time ago regarding Weezer, and the point I was trying to make was that not only did Weezer jump off a serious cliff artistically speaking, but they were one of the few bands I could think of that did so so badly that the dive actually tarnished their initial brilliance. One of the things I love so much about Weezer and Pinkerton was the band's ability to paint a thick, dark streak of cynicism across the universe of pink adolescent tragedy. What subsequent records by Weezer suggested was that the black streak was accidental. That whatever that green album thing was was what Weezer had been trying to get at all along, and we were all duped into thinking that there was a tongue in a cheek when there was none to begin with. That aside, I do still love their first two records, and simply pretend that the band was crashed into by a double decker bus following their sophomore effort. That tends to work for me. -The World Has Turned and Left Me Ghost Jam

01-04-2013, 03:02 PM	#34 (permalink)
Forward To Death Trolier Than Thou Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,336	I always compare them to Green Day. Both are rock bands with a heavy dose of poppiness, both had a great album followed by a decent album, and both fell the **** off big time. However, that's more than most mainstream rock bands.

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Socialginga Groupie Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 16	money changes people