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Old 07-18-2016, 07:31 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Two 80's bands really stand out in my mind as influences for many others to come throughout the 80's, 90's and beyond. I remember when both of their debut albums came out in 1980, hearing cuts from each played on a local college radio station, (the only radio stations willing to play newer "underground/alternative" music at that time), being blown away by what I heard and going out and buying both albums as a result (still have them.) The music of both bands stood apart from everything else I can recall at that time and both were significant influences on so many bands to follow.


Wipers - Is This Real? (1980)

The Wipers debut album was released in January of 1980.

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Killing Joke - Killing Joke (1980)

Killing Joke's debut album was released in September of 1980.
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I don't really think of Killing Joke as alternative rock but they are a great band and certainly very influential.
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Old 07-18-2016, 12:44 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I envy you, you have about 4 albums of the greatest alt. music you'll ever hear then about 8 more albums of quality material to discover
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Old 07-19-2016, 07:19 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Well, they released Let It Be, which is generally considered a classic alternative/college rock album, and they were influential on a lot of later bands, including the Pixies.
I subconsciously heard "Left of the Dial" and assumed it was a Pixies song for a while, until I heard it again. Still, some of the Replacements music reminds me of The Police circa-1978.
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Old 07-19-2016, 07:29 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Two 80's bands really stand out in my mind as influences for many others to come throughout the 80's, 90's and beyond. I remember when both of their debut albums came out in 1980, hearing cuts from each played on a local college radio station, (the only radio stations willing to play newer "underground/alternative" music at that time), being blown away by what I heard and going out and buying both albums as a result (still have them.) The music of both bands stood apart from everything else I can recall at that time and both were significant influences on so many bands to follow.


Wipers - Is This Real? (1980)

The Wipers debut album was released in January of 1980.

And...


Killing Joke - Killing Joke (1980)

Killing Joke's debut album was released in September of 1980.
Wipers come across to me as a major influence on the Meat Puppets.

Although the Killing Joke vocalist has a very typical singing voice for British bands of the late 1970s/early 1980s (post punk cockney vocals went out of fashion) the guitar playing sounds influential on later bands. I'm guessing that if it was released January 1980, it was recorded sometime in '79. I hear hints in "Requiem" of "She's So High" by Blur and "Ruby" by the Kaiser Chiefs.

Not sure if this counts, since the song I'm thinking of was released in 1990, but Husker Du front man Bob Mould recorded "Stop Your Crying", and the opening reminds me of the chorus in Ruby (the same song that I mentioned earlier).

Interpol also sound a lot like bands such as Joy Division and Wire. Since I wasn't alive in 1980, I'd not got round to hearing any if their stuff until recently, but I'd heard an Interpol album about 10 years ago without knowing it was them, and when I looked up Wire and Joy Division more recently, I thought I'd heard them before. In fact K was actually thinking of Interpol.

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Old 07-19-2016, 08:05 PM   #16 (permalink)
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OP doesn't give enough credit to The Smiths saying "they sound like JD" isn't fair because EVERY British post punk band sounds like Joy Division and Wire to a degree

Smiths are extremely influential on "indie" as a sound, basically jangly guitars and effeminate "smart is cool" front men. Marr's influence is all over Shoegaze

You could argue Orange Juice beat them to that and you'd be right but then Orange Juice didn't end up being nearly as popular and therefore influential

Additionally you are completely forgetting about stuff like The Cure and Jesus Mary Chain

Also Gang of Four, Kurt once called Nirvana a "Gang of Four and Scratch Acid cover band"

The list goes on really
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Cobain is clearly a moron. Nirvana is a Pixies cover band.
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Old 07-19-2016, 08:21 PM   #18 (permalink)
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That's one of their very clear influences but there's more than just that going on and I'm not even trying to push Nirvana as being special

I'd rather listen to SP or Hum, 90's groups with more interesting guitar tones
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I'm just gonna leave this here cause I think it's somewhat relevant and quietly walk away.

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Old 07-19-2016, 08:27 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Interpol sucks though so boring

Also he mentions Josh Homme, again, zzzzz


If by 90's music all we're talking about is basically the retro classic rock revival that was grunge and its spinoffs then I guess you can thank Pixies for making loud guitars cool again even if practically everything they ended up influencing was never that good

but if we want to talk about the 90's music that was good you have to rep stuff like Jesus Mary's Psychocandy for basically inventing shoegaze

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