Hello thanks for allowing me to be here

roscoe_the_first · 05-18-2015, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by tore

Just out of curiosity, do you think there's any truth to conspiracy theories / ideas like these?

The illuminati controls the world
The US government staged the 9/11 attacks
Crop circles are made by visiting aliens
The moon landing was fake
Vapor trails from airplanes are actually chemicals that the government are purposely spraying on people
The elite of mankind are actually reptilian overlords

Sort of. But leave it because it's too long and complicated for you.

Depends what you mean by US Government. Let's discuss it, you'll end up running away. They usually do when I hit them with stuff they can't handle and ruffle up their fluffy pink bunny rabbit world. Warning - I've being blowing away smart arse arguments for 13 years. So show me watcha got if you feel up to it? It's one of my hobbies watching smart arses get progressively cut down and their only escape has been to yellow belly out of the argument. My best advice is not to go there in the first place. it will only make you unhappy and me feeling smug - AGAIN.
continuing:-

No. They're made by hideous entities called Art Students

No. Actually Dunno ,Wasn't there. Don't care

No. Not usually.

No. Having said this Darwin says we all descended from Reptiles. Tee Hee

Betcha thought you were being a smart arse. You'll be sorry if you take it any further.

It may result in me being banned when you realise I'm not such a pushover and your comfort zone has been violated. Been there done it many times. and my reaction has always been
Oh Dear - How sad - Never mind - Move on.

I also believe I've made a damn sight more than four posts

RoxyRollah · 05-18-2015, 09:02 PM

What do you mean by government is a better question.

DeadChannel · 05-18-2015, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by roscoe_the_first

OK but remember this. The reason we seem to have a lot of what has become to be known as Conspiracy Theories is because investigative journalism has been killed off.

This isn't a theory though.

1) Yes it is. Like, by definition.
2) Can you give me a concise version of what the theory actually is? Ideas seem to be scattered about the thread, but I'm having trouble parsing some of it.
3) The problem with most conspiracy theories is that they seem to be rooted in a sort of pseudo-ecclesiastical faith rather than evidence. Most of them are more focused on making the evidence match the facts rather than the other way around, which is why you get these sketchy, tenuous links.

roscoe_the_first · 05-18-2015, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DeadChannel

1) Yes it is. Like, by definition.
2) Can you give me a concise version of what the theory actually is? Ideas seem to be scattered about the thread, but I'm having trouble parsing some of it.
3) The problem with most conspiracy theories is that they seem to be rooted in a sort of pseudo-ecclesiastical faith rather than evidence. Most of them are more focused on making the evidence match the facts rather than the other way around, which is why you get these sketchy, tenuous links.

Hmm I wish right now could post a youtube clip of some psychologists discussing YOUR problem, but I'm stuck on 4 posts. The last people to do that to me were JREF and I blew them away too. They banned me four times such was the strength of my argument in the face of vicious personal attacks that should have gotten those people banned if the forum rules had been adhered to. It only reinforces my conviction when my opponents stoop so low as to run away rather than fight their corner.

It ceases to become a theory when you have proof beyond reasonable doubt. The problem is that the reasonable doubt threshold is dependent of people's deep seated beliefs they have acquired from being brought up from birth inside the envelope.

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Most of them are more focused on making the evidence match the facts rather than the other way around, which is why you get these sketchy, tenuous links.

You mean like the THEORY that 19 emaciated Arabs took over four planes and flew around for hours unmolested? Like that CONSPIRACY THEORY you mean?

roscoe_the_first · 05-18-2015, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah

What do you mean by government is a better question.

The people in charge or the elected agents?

Voltaire said:
"To find out who it is that rules over you first ascertain whom you are not allowed to criticize"

We openly criticize the elected Governments.

**Frownland** · 05-18-2015, 10:20 PM

Oh hell yes it's a truther. I knew that reading through all of The Beatless spam would be worth it.

roscoe_the_first · 05-18-2015, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Oh hell yes it's a truther. I knew that reading through all of The Beatless spam would be worth it.

This ladies and gentlemen is the typical phase one Attack Dog response which is designed to put off those without too much conviction. It has never worked with me. I get the next wave that try to use facts against me and when that gets blown away their only recourse left is to say that I violated some forum rule and ban me.

Been dealing with cowards for years. It only emboldens me.

Got any facts Guv?

Doubt it.

By the way you haven't commented on the link in my signature.

**Frownland** · 05-18-2015, 10:29 PM

I'll have you know that I'm well equipped with facts being a shill for the government (and Monsanto, but that's my night job). Just give me the long haul man, really persuade me on this. I have an open mind and I would like to be proven wrong if you can prove that the government was actually involved instead of linking together a bunch of supposed anomalies taken out of context. Burden of proof is on the accuser.

So go on then.

Accuse.

roscoe_the_first · 05-18-2015, 10:31 PM

incidently the word truther is straight out of Orwell's 1984 Newspeak

**Janszoon** · 05-18-2015, 10:31 PM

Today was trash day, and after the trash collectors collected my trash and left my empty trashcan on the sidewalk, someone came by and threw some trash in it. I would like to learn about how this is a conspiracy orchestrated by the shadow government.

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Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	I'll have you know that I'm well equipped with facts being a shill for the government (and Monsanto, but that's my night job). Just give me the long haul man, really persuade me on this. I have an open mind and I would like to be proven wrong if you can prove that the government was actually involved instead of linking together a bunch of supposed anomalies taken out of context. Burden of proof is on the accuser. So go on then. Accuse. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

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