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grindy · 12-26-2016, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

I used jewed once around here and someone flipped out about it. So I refrain from using the term jewed and gypsy even.

#zionistoccupiedbanter

The Batlord · 12-26-2016, 08:20 AM

Do we even have gypsies in America? I think you're probably fine with that one, dude.

WWWP · 12-26-2016, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Xurtio

I doubt that masculinity observations don't underlie it. If it was a picture of a full bearded lumberjack holding an ak 47, "fa*got" probably wouldn't come up. When Louis CK does his bit, he uses an efeminate whiny voice to portray his def of "fa*got".

If you were born in most cultures in the world today, especially in the west, you were raised around these shaming structures by the media and your peers. And these social strucures have been in place for hundreds of years. I don't think people do it so consciously "ooh I'm going to call this guy f*g to make me look more masculine". No, the social centers of the brain already do that automatically (i.e, its "subconscious" to use Freud's outdated terminology).

Also, the word "literal" was used in front of ****ot - not sure if the poster failed English, but literal has a particular meaning....

Louis CK wouldn't be able to go around using "jewed" or "kiked" and say "oh I was just talking about people that steal, not literal jews!" But the only reason that derogatory term is tied to stealing is because the jews were accused of it (infamously, by Hitler) ... much like homosexuality is considered failing at masculinity.

The new word for shaming men that don't maintain the patriarchy is cuck, btw. The alt right abandoned ****ot in the 90's when they graduated high school.

You're absolutely right I just don't think anyone here who thinks it's funny to use homophobic slurs (and then justify it with a comedy bit) is going to care. I hate seeing it on the boards, tbh, and I've taken to just ignoring or not associating with the people who throw it around like it's funny. I called someone out on it in plug but no one cares about what I think so now I just leave plug if that person shows up.

Key · 12-26-2016, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Xurtio

> 2016
> still using homosexual slurs as an insult

I don't see the problem unless people openly say they're offended. I'm not going to watch what I say if I don't have to.

djchameleon · 12-26-2016, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Do we even have gypsies in America? I think you're probably fine with that one, dude.

Idk but I rather just not use it.

Chula Vista · 12-26-2016, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii

I don't see the problem unless people openly say they're offended. I'm not going to watch what I say if I don't have to.

I'm openly saying that homosexual insults offend me.

Key · 12-26-2016, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

I'm openly saying that homosexual insults offend me.

I'll keep that in mind, though I wouldn't go as far as saying I'll never use them. It's the internet. If you want to control what people say, you'll have to buy the internet.

WWWP · 12-26-2016, 12:31 PM

Do you use the word as freely IRL?

Edit: it's not even about controlling what people say, it's about not wanting to associate with people who use that word - especially if you're straight and have never been on the receiving end of the hatred and violence with which that word is associated. It's just in poor taste, imo, but it is important to distinguish that this is my perception through an American lense, I acknowledge that there are cultural variations in relation to the word in question.

Key · 12-26-2016, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by wolverinewolfweiselpigeon

Do you use the word as freely IRL?

Edit: it's not even about controlling what people say, it's about not wanting to associate with people who use that word - especially if you're straight and have never been on the receiving end of the hatred and violence with which that word is associated. It's just in poor taste, imo, but it is important to distinguish that this is my perception through an American lense, I acknowledge that there are cultural variations in relation to the word in question.

Oh no no, of course not. Outside of the forum I'm far more respectful than people realize. I just put on the other persona because of my insecurities. I do try to be nice at times but otherwise I'm just a self righteous *******.

Understandable if people get offended, but again, I do stress that it is just the internet. And although I'm a hypocrite for saying so, I've also been working on just brushing off petty insults that mean nothing through the internet. The same should go for slurs as mentioned imo. But, I understand that isn't as received as I intend. I as well have been at the receiving end of criticism and hatred toward sexuality, but that's just for me to deal with on my own time. I shouldn't make other people feel bad for being openly spoken. 99% of the time, people generally don't mean it as a personal attack on the internet. In real life that's much different, which I fully understand.

Chula Vista · 12-26-2016, 01:27 PM

Just to reiterate Ki,

My mom, born in 1930, has lived her entire life gay. Because of social pressures she tried going straight in the late 50s, early 60s. Thankfully, she spit out me as a result. Divorced when I was 2. Grew up in a gay household. A good chunk of the people who helped me along as a mixed up grade school kid were gay.

Bottom line:

Don't ****ing judge, or make light of, what you don't have a clue about.

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Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	Just to reiterate Ki, My mom, born in 1930, has lived her entire life gay. Because of social pressures she tried going straight in the late 50s, early 60s. Thankfully, she spit out me as a result. Divorced when I was 2. Grew up in a gay household. A good chunk of the people who helped me along as a mixed up grade school kid were gay. Bottom line: Don't ****ing judge, or make light of, what you don't have a clue about. __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”