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Old 05-17-2022, 05:55 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I don't know, the jury is still out on this one. I think for some people they wear "music snobbery" as a badge of honor, for others it's a pretty serious accusation to hurl at them. So before I call some a music snob I have to know whether I am stroking their ego or hurting their feelings. Neither of which I consciously want to do.
I don't think there's anything wrong with being a music snob as long as he/she doesn't somehow feel superior. We do have a few of these snobs here, after all

I'm curious about your username, Ayn. Could there be a connection to the author, Ayn Rand?
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Old 05-17-2022, 01:12 PM   #12 (permalink)
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My taste in music, until a teenager, was limited to classical music. No other kind was ever heard in our home. I still have a strong recollection being invited to listen to Bill Haley(?) & the Comets performing Rock Around the Clock one day returning from Sunday school. ( No, i’m not a believer). I thought the human race had gone insane making my escape as soon as possible. Now in my 70’s I still find most early white rock & roll a boring dilution of the blues & jazz.
Being a pipe organ student may have warped my perspective which thankfully has been stretched much wider. However, I can still be snobbish even when it comes to classical music much of which I experience as ‘pot boiling’ rubbish. Took me another forty years to learn to appreciate the blues and country & western ( not the Australian variety of C & W which I gives me the horrors)
Punk, Dixieland and most Hollywood musicals (with the exception of West Side Story) I can’t abide.
When it comes to recorded music I find a nasty percentage of todays studio productions ruined by over manipulated digital effects - and don’t get me started on so called auto-tune.
My tolerance for a lot of today’s recordings is probably over sensitive but having been addicted to high end audio since my teens (once referred to as high-fidelity) and being blessed (cursed?) with perfect pitch makes listening to a lot of music over the web via MP3 compression etc at times irksome.
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Old 05-17-2022, 01:16 PM   #13 (permalink)
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At my age most of the action does happen when I’m asleep.
As to early white rock & roll to my ears it will always sound a gutless dilution of the blues gone wrong. At least when the Stones came along they repaired some of the damage.

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the Stones are the quintessential gutless dilution of the blues to my ears

what bands are you even talking about otherwise
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I'm curious about your username, Ayn. Could there be a connection to the author, Ayn Rand?
As a teenager I was besotted with her writing. Later on I came to realise only her metaphysics makes any sense. Have a look at Ronald E Merrill’s “The Ideas of Ayn Rand” Publ’ 1993 Page 94. On other forums I’ve often used either ‘Ayn Marx’ or Karl Rand’ given I regard both as mistaken in their political philosophy . But hey, this really isn’t the place to start delving into all that.

As to any connection to Ms Rand I attended a lecture given by her in NY many decades ago where her chain smoking gave me such a headache I had to depart.

By the way I still think Atlas Shrugged is one of the 20 th Century’s most significant novels the effects of which are still abroad (often unacknowledged) in the world. Mind you if Rand knew anything of today’s American ‘Right’ she’d be rolling in her grave.
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She'd hold her nose and shake hands with them the same as every reactionary capitalist.
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the Stones are the quintessential gutless dilution of the blues to my ears

what bands are you even talking about otherwise
You may be right in describing The Stones efforts as a gutless dilution of the blues but they were one of the first groups outside the US to attempt anything like the blues. At least they didn’t commit the crime of early white rock and roll in attempting to totally remove any apparent influence of blues or black music.
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She'd hold her nose and shake hands with them the same as every reactionary capitalist.
I think neither of us can prove our speculations but remember, Rand was a refugee from one of the many variants of Marxism and had an extremely, almost puritanical idea of political and economic reality.
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Old 05-17-2022, 05:45 PM   #18 (permalink)
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You may be right in describing The Stones efforts as a gutless dilution of the blues but they were one of the first groups outside the US to attempt anything like the blues. At least they didn’t commit the crime of early white rock and roll in attempting to totally remove any apparent influence of blues or black music.
this isn't remotely true

you had the entirety of 50s blues inspired RocknRoll before anything like The Stones

but if they did remove the influence

wouldn't your criticism fail to stand?
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But hey, this really isn’t the place to start delving into all that.
Oh how wrong you are. This place talks more about psuedo intellectual jumbo than music at times.
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