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Old 10-17-2009, 10:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Furious jazz rock?

I'm looking for some hard rock that incorporates jazz elements/organs/keyboards and drumming styles and time signatures. A good reference point would be early Grand Funk Railroad and "Black Friday", "Do It Again" by Steely Dan...recommends? basically a ton of groove.
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Old 10-17-2009, 10:43 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Steely Dan & GFR...furious jazz rock...really?
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Old 10-17-2009, 11:16 PM   #3 (permalink)
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well to me. Haha. If you have better ideas I'm all ears. I've been listening to metal my whole life. My tastes are maturing I suppose. And apparently you like The Residents. So I will value your suggestions highly!
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Old 10-17-2009, 11:56 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I think the Allman Brothers really get sold short in the jazz influenced rock department
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Old 10-18-2009, 01:45 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Definitely Niacin - YouTube - Niacin - Barbarian @ The Gate , Dennis Chambers band - YouTube - Extraction ~Proto Cosmos~ 2003 , Return to Forever has some crazy jazz fusion stuff - YouTube - Return To Forever (w/Bill Connors) 1974 , also Weather Report - YouTube - Palladium by Weather Report , Cherry Five (nowadays called Goblin, maybe more prog rock than jazz fusion, but hey, still great) - YouTube - Country Grave-yard - Cherry Five
That's for now, if you want more stuff, just say, jazz fusion is THE genre for me.
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Erm, well, if you like jazz & metal, and want a "furious combination" of the two:

Cynic - Focus
Atheist - Unquestionable Presence
Gorguts - Obscura

The gorguts release reminds me of Mingus.
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I've heard all those bands but I'm going to get back into them. Biggest problem I have with them is the guitar tone (hard to carry over a distorted metal tone into expressive jazz) and it's lacking in the keyboard department. But it's all great stuff and thanks for jogging my memory about it.
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I'd really recommend Kayo Dot's Choirs of the Eye, some post-rock with jazz elements.


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Erm, well, if you like jazz & metal, and want a "furious combination" of the two:

Cynic - Focus
Atheist - Unquestionable Presence
Gorguts - Obscura

The gorguts release reminds me of Mingus.
This is good to know. I'm always looking out for dark/heavy jazz
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With Gorguts, keep in mind their early stuff is traditional DM but their later stuff is where they got weird...

Anyways, I forgot Painkiller. Painkiller is John Zorn on sax/some vox, Bill Laswell on bass, and Mick Harris on drums & some programing. I'm not familiar with Bill Laswell, but John Zorn brings his saxophone, and Mick Harris - ex Napalm Death - brings his Grindcore and Dub inclinations to the fold. "Guts of a Virgin" is my favorite album by them.

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Biggest problem I have with them is the guitar tone (hard to carry over a distorted metal tone into expressive jazz) and it's lacking in the keyboard department.
Eh, I like a lot of old school metal, so I tend to look past the instruments being used and to how they're being used. Further, I think if a band can recreate a jazz experience using the same instruments Chuck Berry used.... well, that's all the more amazing.
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Not familiar with Laswell? For shame

Furious jazz rock ye say????
Here be all ye need!


Love that video

Though I guess some might be soft and want their more accessible stuff

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