Bebop, Hard Bop and Free Jazz album reviews and discussion

Jedey · 03-27-2010, 01:14 PM

An artist that gets overlooked a lot is Joe Henderson, I recommend the albums "Inner Urge", "In 'N' Out" and "Page One".

LoathsomePete · 08-02-2010, 03:05 PM

Awesome thread Janzoon, any chance you can review The Cowboy Bebop OST? I've been listening to that religiously the last two weeks and I think you'd really enjoy it. Let me know if you need a link and I'll sort you out.

dankrsta · 08-03-2010, 10:23 AM

I'm a total jazz n00b. I've always wanted to get into it, but never knew where to start. However, I've noticed, from what I've heard (and it's not much), that I tend to like jazz from this era - 40s, 50s, 60s. So, I'll be checking out this thread for recommendations, that's for sure.

SATCHMO · 08-03-2010, 10:46 AM

The Art Blakey Quintet - A Night at Birdland double-live album that Janzoon cited in his first post is undeniably one of the quintessential hardbop albums, if not one of the best and most underrated jazz albums, period. Another of Blakey's albums that, for some reason, goes without much credit (which is a shame, because it swings so damn hard) is Free for All. I probably listen to it more than any other jazz album in my collection.

**Janszoon** · 08-03-2010, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by LoathsomePete

Awesome thread Janzoon, any chance you can review The Cowboy Bebop OST? I've been listening to that religiously the last two weeks and I think you'd really enjoy it. Let me know if you need a link and I'll sort you out.

Hey man, thanks for reviving this thread! I'd love to check that album out if you feel like sending it my way.

**Janszoon** · 08-03-2010, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SATCHMO

The Art Blakey Quintet - A Night at Birdland double-live album that Janzoon cited in his first post is undeniably one of the quintessential hardbop albums, if not one of the best and most underrated jazz albums, period. Another of Blakey's albums that, for some reason, goes without much credit (which is a shame, because it swings so damn hard) is Free for All. I probably listen to it more than any other jazz album in my collection.

I definitely have to check this out. I don't think I've ever heard anything involving Art Blakey that I didn't like.

Seltzer · 08-03-2010, 08:20 PM

Have you heard Money Jungle? It's a pretty sweet Duke Ellington album featuring Charles Mingus and Max Roach at the top of their game. It's quite different to Ellington's earlier swing and big band material, which is probably a good thing given your preferences.

**Janszoon** · 08-04-2010, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Seltzer

Have you heard Money Jungle? It's a pretty sweet Duke Ellington album featuring Charles Mingus and Max Roach at the top of their game. It's quite different to Ellington's earlier swing and big band material, which is probably a good thing given your preferences.

Money Jungle is great! I actually got it based on some MB member's recommendation a while back. I think maybe it was Right-Track.

LoathsomePete · 08-05-2010, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Hey man, thanks for reviving this thread! I'd love to check that album out if you feel like sending it my way.

Done

**Janszoon** · 08-09-2010, 11:02 PM

Cowboy Bebop Soundtrack

Something I should tell you right off the bat is that I know almost nothing about Cowboy Bebop. I'm about seventy-five percent sure it's a TV show but I might be mistaken, it could be a movie. Or maybe it's both. No idea. I also am relatively sure it's Japanese anime but I might be wrong about that as well. I mention all of this to let you know, dear reader, that I have very little context for this music. All I know is it's a soundtrack that appears to consist mostly, but not entirely, of music by some band or person called Seatbelts. At any rate, I was asked to do this review by alert reader Loathsome Pete so here goes.

The first thing I noticed about this album is that, despite being the soundtrack for something called Cowboy Bebop, none of the music is actually bebop. In fact, some of it isn't even jazz at all. What it is is a mixed bag of stuff, the best of which is fairly quirky, somewhat jazzy and seems very heavily influenced by 1960s spy film soundtracks. Some of it reminds me of one of my idols, J.G. Thirlwell (Foetus, Steroid Maximus, Wiseblood, etc.), in particular his work on the soundtrack for the Cartoon Network show Venture Brothers. A lot of it also reminds me of Mexican space-age bachelor pad music maestro Esquivel.

Having never heard this in its intended context, I have no idea how well it works as soundtrack music, but I would guess it's pretty good. As an album it's a little patchy, as the mood drifts all over the place from song to song, but that's to be expected from tracks that were not originally intended to be heard one after another like this. It certainly starts off with a bang with "Tank!", a track that's evocative of some super-exciting spy movie opening credits. There are a number of tracks in a similar vein that I enjoyed a great deal as well, such as "Rush", "Cat Blues", "Too Good Too Bad", and the slightly John Zorn-esque "Bad Dog No Biscuits". And then there are some that are quite a bit different that I also really enjoyed, from the almost Brazilian sounding "The Egg and I" to a couple of hybrid-type tracks such as "Space Lion" and "Piano Black" which combine jazz elements with loops and synthesized sounds. Unfortunately, this album also has its share of missteps as well. These range from it's empty attempts at rootsy blues and/or western type stuff to the truly awful song "Rain" which sounds like every horrible hard rock 1980s cartoon theme song you can think of, only somehow much worse.

So is it any good? I say yes. Even though I only really enjoyed 50% or 60% of the tracks, that 50% or 60% is some sweet, swinging stuff daddy-o! Who wants a martini?

08-02-2010, 03:05 PM	#12 (permalink)
LoathsomePete Cardboard Box Realtor Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Hobb's End Posts: 7,648	Awesome thread Janzoon, any chance you can review The Cowboy Bebop OST? I've been listening to that religiously the last two weeks and I think you'd really enjoy it. Let me know if you need a link and I'll sort you out. __________________ Last.FM 101 Albums That May Not Change Your Life, But I Really Like And You Might Too

08-03-2010, 10:23 AM	#13 (permalink)
dankrsta ... Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,776	I'm a total jazz n00b. I've always wanted to get into it, but never knew where to start. However, I've noticed, from what I've heard (and it's not much), that I tend to like jazz from this era - 40s, 50s, 60s. So, I'll be checking out this thread for recommendations, that's for sure. __________________ Last.fm

08-03-2010, 08:20 PM	#17 (permalink)
Seltzer Fish in the percolator! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Hobbit Land NZ Posts: 2,870	Have you heard Money Jungle? It's a pretty sweet Duke Ellington album featuring Charles Mingus and Max Roach at the top of their game. It's quite different to Ellington's earlier swing and big band material, which is probably a good thing given your preferences. __________________ In the Court of King Crimson \| Last.fm \| RYM

08-09-2010, 11:02 PM	#20 (permalink)
Janszoon Mate, Spawn & Die Join Date: May 2007 Location: The Rapping Community Posts: 24,593	*Cowboy Bebop Soundtrack* Something I should tell you right off the bat is that I know almost nothing about Cowboy Bebop. I'm about seventy-five percent sure it's a TV show but I might be mistaken, it could be a movie. Or maybe it's both. No idea. I also am relatively sure it's Japanese anime but I might be wrong about that as well. I mention all of this to let you know, dear reader, that I have very little context for this music. All I know is it's a soundtrack that appears to consist mostly, but not entirely, of music by some band or person called Seatbelts. At any rate, I was asked to do this review by alert reader Loathsome Pete so here goes. The first thing I noticed about this album is that, despite being the soundtrack for something called Cowboy Bebop, none of the music is actually bebop. In fact, some of it isn't even jazz at all. What it is is a mixed bag of stuff, the best of which is fairly quirky, somewhat jazzy and seems very heavily influenced by 1960s spy film soundtracks. Some of it reminds me of one of my idols, J.G. Thirlwell (Foetus, Steroid Maximus, Wiseblood, etc.), in particular his work on the soundtrack for the Cartoon Network show Venture Brothers. A lot of it also reminds me of Mexican space-age bachelor pad music maestro Esquivel. Having never heard this in its intended context, I have no idea how well it works as soundtrack music, but I would guess it's pretty good. As an album it's a little patchy, as the mood drifts all over the place from song to song, but that's to be expected from tracks that were not originally intended to be heard one after another like this. It certainly starts off with a bang with "Tank!", a track that's evocative of some super-exciting spy movie opening credits. There are a number of tracks in a similar vein that I enjoyed a great deal as well, such as "Rush", "Cat Blues", "Too Good Too Bad", and the slightly John Zorn-esque "Bad Dog No Biscuits". And then there are some that are quite a bit different that I also really enjoyed, from the almost Brazilian sounding "The Egg and I" to a couple of hybrid-type tracks such as "Space Lion" and "Piano Black" which combine jazz elements with loops and synthesized sounds. Unfortunately, this album also has its share of missteps as well. These range from it's empty attempts at rootsy blues and/or western type stuff to the truly awful song "Rain" which sounds like every horrible hard rock 1980s cartoon theme song you can think of, only somehow much worse. So is it any good? I say yes. Even though I only really enjoyed 50% or 60% of the tracks, that 50% or 60% is some sweet, swinging stuff daddy-o! Who wants a martini? __________________ A Night in the Life of the Invisible Man Time & Place 25 Albums You Should Hear Before the Moon Crashes into the Earth and We All Die last.fm

03-27-2010, 01:14 PM	#11 (permalink)
Jedey Veritas vos liberabit Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Musicapolis Posts: 477	An artist that gets overlooked a lot is Joe Henderson, I recommend the albums "Inner Urge", "In 'N' Out" and "Page One".

08-03-2010, 10:46 AM	#14 (permalink)
SATCHMO Al Dente Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,708	The Art Blakey Quintet - A Night at Birdland double-live album that Janzoon cited in his first post is undeniably one of the quintessential hardbop albums, if not one of the best and most underrated jazz albums, period. Another of Blakey's albums that, for some reason, goes without much credit (which is a shame, because it swings so damn hard) is Free for All. I probably listen to it more than any other jazz album in my collection.