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grindy 07-17-2016 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 1718884)
^ Nice one, grindy! I wonder what obsure corner of the musical universe you were in to dig up such a gem.
It's also one of the most explicit songs that we've had in this thread so far - and there can be no misunderstanding because, according to the five seconds research I did, "pussy" has been in use as slang since the 1600s.

Yeah, it's basically a single entendre.
I found it through a cover version by Robert Crumb's band.
Pretty cool version as well.


Psy-Fi 07-17-2016 08:14 AM

Gotta get some Andre Williams into this thread. Like Wynonie Harris, he's more rhythm & blues than straight-up blues...

I'm running
Yes before it's too late
Trying to get away
From that jail bait

It's a rough temptation
But a common invitation
And a good association
But a quick elimination
That will take you out of circulation
Yes I'm talking about that younger generation

So take my advice fellas
For goodness sake
15, 16, 17 that's jail bait

Now they swear that they're in love
That you and her got stars above
And she's lookin' mighty good
Just like a young girl should

We try to tell ya no
And let that young girl go
But you, you know it all
You have yourself a ball

And now that it's too late
As you look from cell number eight
I tried to tell you old mate

17 and a half is still jail bait

So tomorrow's the date
For the trial of jail bait
And this you watch and see
The young girl will go free
And you'll get one to three

So out the door she walks
To another man she talks
Before you can count
From one to eight
Another man in for
Jail bait

Please mister judge
If you just let me go this time
I won't mess with them young girls no more
I swear I'm not gonna bother them no more Mister Judge
I ain't gonna bother none fifteen
I ain't gonna bother none sixteen
I ain't gonna bother none seventeen
I ain't gonna mess with none eighteen
I'm gonna leave them twenty-year-old ones alone too
Gonna get me a girl about forty-two
If you just believe what I say and let me go Mister Judge
Please Mister Judge I ain't gonna bother them young girls no more
Gimme a break Mister Judge
Please Mister Judge



:cool:

whipsy48 07-17-2016 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 1709610)
I was once at a blues concert, with a crowd largely made up of enthusiastic youngsters. When the band finished a cover version of the Mississippi John Hurt song, Candy Man Blues, my friend indicated a bunch of cheering girls and said, “I wonder if they realise he was singing about his prick.”
If you are in any doubt about that interpretation, here’s the original song, and Exhibit A, the pertinent lyrics:




That set me wondering about other blues lyrics, for example, BB King’s line, "I’ve got a sweet little angel, I love the way she spreads her wings” or the following gem, originally by Memphis Minnie. Did she really have a paid driver about whom she felt possessive, or should we read between the lines, even if it means finding something less innocent?



So, have I become some dirty-minded perv, or is there more to these old blues songs than meets the eye? If anyone else has been troubled by suggestive lyrics, I’d be interested to hear other examples - if only to be reassured that I’m not alone.

Well,you got your answer and also schooled some of us in the process,:)

Lisnaholic 07-17-2016 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Psy-Fi (Post 1721042)
Gotta get some Andre Williams into this thread. Like Wynonie Harris, he's more rhythm & blues than straight-up blues...



:cool:

^ :laughing: That song is so politically incorrect - it's great! In some liner notes I once saw a song described as "a slow-drag whorehouse number". Don't really know what it means, but I feel it might apply to the leisurely rhythm of Jail Bait.

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Originally Posted by whipsy48 (Post 1721096)
Well,you got your answer and also schooled some of us in the process,:)

^ Many thanks for your positive feedback, whipsy, and welcome to MB! :wave:
Sometimes posting in these threads feels like chucking stones into a pond so it's really nice to hear that someone at least has got something out of it. Any contributions of your own to make?

Meanwhile, here's Dana Gillespie's better-than-the-original cover of a Clarence Williams song, from an album that she rather wittily called Blue Job :-



whipsy48 07-17-2016 08:44 PM

Lisnaholic,hahhahha I love it.


I have no contriutions,I'm a student.

Lisnaholic 07-22-2016 05:18 PM

^ Glad you liked it, whipsy ! If you are a student of music, you have come to a great place: you can learn by asking, or by exploring some of the various threads. In the Editor's Choice section, for instance, there's an index of albums, put together at a time when members aspired to make MB a well-organised resource.

I think I speak for many members when I say that enthusiasm counts for more than expertise here.:)

Woodstock 07-27-2016 08:01 PM

Lots of old blues were deliciously bawdy, lots of double entendres and the like. Not all heterosexual either. Ma Rainey 's "Prove It On Me Blues" ,lines like "went out last night with a crowd of my friends must have been women cause I don't like no men"" on the album AC/DC Blues, a collection of old blues songs about gay and lesbian relationships.
And of course all the blues tunes referring to "jellyroll" or "jelly".
John Jackson- "girl named Irene, got good jelly but she's stingy with me" and his song Diddy Wah Diddy" with the line " I got put right out of church because I diddy wah diddied too much."
And have heard that the word "jazz" itself (or "jass") was at one time slang in certain subcuktures for sexual inrercourse. May well be. Do know that jazz was denounced as immoral and decadent by the prudes and moralists when it first came on the scene. Of course that was in large part because it was seen as black music, the same as rock and roll was.

rubber soul 11-04-2017 08:07 AM

Wow, I have to dig deep to find any blues threads. I'll guess I'll have to start one one of these days.

Anyway, here's my contribution


Muso Goodshot 12-11-2017 04:07 PM

Blues has always been associated with sex, get down and dirty on the Saturday night to the devils music, then repent on Sunday.

Some great tunes been posted there guys.

Jaycat 01-08-2018 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Psy-Fi (Post 1721042)
Gotta get some Andre Williams into this thread. Like Wynonie Harris, he's more rhythm & blues than straight-up blues...

I'm running
Yes before it's too late
Trying to get away
From that jail bait . . .

I very clearly remember hearing "Jailbait" on the radio when I was a kid. This would have been around 1960-62 in the Washington, DC area. No one can believe that this tune would've been played on commercial radio at that time, but I definitely remember it.


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