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Lisnaholic 06-14-2016 09:17 AM

Those dirty ole blues men
 
I was once at a blues concert, with a crowd largely made up of enthusiastic youngsters. When the band finished a cover version of the Mississippi John Hurt song, Candy Man Blues, my friend indicated a bunch of cheering girls and said, “I wonder if they realise he was singing about his prick.”
If you are in any doubt about that interpretation, here’s the original song, and Exhibit A, the pertinent lyrics:


Quote:

All heard what sister Johnson said
She always takes a candy stick to bed
Don't stand close to the candy man
He'll leave a big candy stick in your hand
He sold some candy to sister Bad
The very next day she took all he had
If you try his candy, good friend of mine
You sure will want it for a long long time
His stick candy don't melt away
It just gets better, so the ladies say
That set me wondering about other blues lyrics, for example, BB King’s line, "I’ve got a sweet little angel, I love the way she spreads her wings” or the following gem, originally by Memphis Minnie. Did she really have a paid driver about whom she felt possessive, or should we read between the lines, even if it means finding something less innocent?



So, have I become some dirty-minded perv, or is there more to these old blues songs than meets the eye? If anyone else has been troubled by suggestive lyrics, I’d be interested to hear other examples - if only to be reassured that I’m not alone.

EPOCH6 06-14-2016 12:33 PM

Wynonie Harris' "Keep on Churnin' (Till the Butter Comes)" is my favorite example, it's hilarious to imagine the sort of reactions this would have gotten in '52.



Keep on churnin' till the butter comes
Keep on churnin' till the butter comes
Keep on pumpin' make the butter flow
Wipe off the paddle and churn some more
Little boy blue, come blow your horn
The cow's in the meadow, sheep's in the corn
Tend the sheep, leave him be
Bring the finest brown cow straight to me
[Chorus]
[Interlude]
[Chorus]
How now, brown cow, keep on eatin' your hay
Go in your shed, be sure you're fed
Go in your shed, be sure you're fed
Daddy needs butter for his shortening bread
[Chorus]
[Interlude]
[Chorus]
Who now, moo cow, keep on swishing your tail
Don't kick over the pail
First comes the milk, then comes the cream
Takes good butter to make your daddy scream
[Chorus]
I wanted some butter one day
A fine brown cow came my way
It kept on pumpin'
Butter came jumpin'
I'll milk you, cow, 'till my pail is full
Look out, heifer … here comes your bull

Psy-Fi 06-14-2016 02:12 PM

"Winin' Boy Blues" by Jelly Roll Morton is one of the raunchiest blues songs I've ever heard (and I've heard a lot of 'em.)

I'm the winin' boy, don't deny my name.
Oooooh the winin' boy, don't deny my name.
I'm the winin' boy, don't deny my name.
I can pick it up and shake it like Stavin Chains.
I'm the winin' boy, don't deny my name.

I had that girl, I had her in the grass.
I had that bitch, had her in the grass,
yes baby.
I had that bitch, had her in the grass,
one day she got scared and a snake ran up her big ass.
Yes I'm the winin' boy, don't deny my name.

I had that bitch, had her on the stump.
I had that bitch, had her on the stump.
I had that bitch and had her on the stump,
I ****ed her 'til her pussy stunk.
I'm the winin' boy, don't deny my name.

Nickles worth of beefsteak and a dimes worth of lard.
Nickles worth of beefsteak and a dimes worth of lard,
yes baby.
Nickles worth of beefsteak, a dimes worth of lard,
I'm gonna salivate your pussy 'til my peter get hard.
I'm the winin' boy, don't deny my ****in' name.


And some of the women were just as dirty (or even dirtier) as the men. Here's a raunchy number from 1935 by Lucille Bogan called "Shave 'Em Dry"...


I got nipples on my titties, big as the end of my thumb
I got somethin' between my legs'll make a dead man come
Oh daddy, baby won't you shave 'em dry?
Now, draw it out!
Want you to grind me baby, grind me until I cry

Say I ****ed all night, and all the night before baby
And I feel just like I wanna, **** some more
Oh great God daddy
Grind me honey and shave me dry
And when you hear me holler baby, want you to shave it dry

I got nipples on my titties, big as the end of my thumb
Daddy you say that's the kind of 'em you want, and you can make 'em come
Oh, daddy shave me dry
And I'll give you somethin' baby, swear it'll make you cry

I'm gon' turn back my mattress, and let you oil my springs
I want you to grind me daddy, 'til the bell do ring
Oh daddy, want you to shave 'em dry
Oh great God daddy, if you can't shave 'em baby won't you try?

Now if ****in' was the thing, that would take me to heaven
I'd be ****in' in the studio, till the clock strike eleven
Oh daddy, daddy shave 'em dry
I would **** you baby, honey I'd make you cry

Now your nuts hang down like a damn bell sapper
And your dick stands up like a steeple
Your Goddam ass-hole stands open like a church door
And the crabs walks in like people
Ow, ****!

Ooh! Baby, won't you shave 'em dry

A big sow gets fat from eatin' corn
And a pig gets fat from suckin'
Reason you see this whore, fat like I am
Great God, I got fat from ****in'
Eeeeh! Shave 'em dry

My back is made of whalebone
And my cock is made of brass
And my ****in' is made for workin' men's two dollars
Great God, round to kiss my ass
Oh! Whoo, daddy, shave 'em dry

Both of these little gems of fine filth can be found on the "Copulatin' Blues" compilation album featuring various dirty blues songs recorded from 1929 to 1940...


Various Artists - Copulatin' Blues (1976)

Lisnaholic 06-14-2016 09:53 PM

That's a great song, EPOCH - good chugging beat, and if there's any ambiguity about the lyrics, Wynonie Harris irons it out in the last few lines; very neat.

That Copulatin' Blues album is a pretty conclusive response for this thread, Psy-Fi. Luckily nobody says " 'nuff said" on MB any more - but with that album you'd be entitled to.

I haven't had time to explore all the tracks yet - I wonder if it has this song on it:-



Nina Simone has sung this song plenty of times, but she leaves out some of Bessie Smith's best lines, like "I want a little hot dog between my rolls." I thought you had more nerve, Nina!

Psy-Fi 06-15-2016 06:31 AM

^ Yes, that Bessie Smith song is on that compilation.

I got interested in those types of blues tunes back in the 70's after I first heard "What's That Smells Like Fish" by Blind Boy Fuller. A friend of mine turned me onto his music via Hot Tuna and their song "Keep On Truckin'" which has some of the lyrics from Blind Boy Fuller's song mixed in.

I also have this fantastic 5 record LP set from Jass Records...

https://i.imgur.com/fWH3UeN.jpg

"Bring It Home to Grandma", "Ram Rod Blues", "Caught Us Doin' It", "I Want Some of Your Pie", "Loose Like That", "I'm a Mighty Tight Woman", "Please Warm My Weiner", "Take It Easy, Greasy", "Honey Dipper Blues", Just a few of the many suggestive titles included in the set.

Them Dirty Blues - Various Artists | Songs, Reviews, Credits | AllMusic


And this great compilation of jump blues and r&b songs from the 1950's...

https://i.imgur.com/H0ErDdi.jpg

"Big Ten Inch Record", "Big Long Slidin' Thing", "It Ain't the Meat", "Rocket 69", "(I Love to Play Your Piano) Let Me Bang Your Box" to name a few of the included audio gems.

Risque Rhythm: Nasty 50s R&B - Various Artists | Songs, Reviews, Credits | AllMusic

Lisnaholic 06-18-2016 07:20 AM

^ "Them Dirty Blues" looks like a really great box set to have! That's a lot of material, some of which I'm exploring today. Thanks for the info and the links.

I chose this song this morning,.. .. because I couldn't remember any doublé entendre lyrics in the Laundromat Blueses that I knew:-

.....

Are there really three completely different blues songs about laundromats? Who would've thought it.

(P.S. Congrats on the Hunter S Thompson make over, Psy-Fi. Nice.)

grindy 06-19-2016 01:11 PM

Toothache blues, one of my favourite raunchy blues songs.


Lisnaholic 06-23-2016 06:44 AM

^ That's the first raunchy duet I've heard, which makes it a nice song, even if the dentist/cavity metaphor for sex sounds like it comes from a schoolboy's joke.

I don't have any new blues to contribute, so I'm going to move on to that '80s sub-sub-genre, Songs About "Horses" ;)

Dylan: New Pony
Cohen: Ballad of the Absent Mare
Byrds: Chestnut Mare

grindy 07-06-2016 12:31 PM

Not blues, but still very fitting.


Lisnaholic 07-10-2016 05:16 PM

^ Nice one, grindy! I wonder what obsure corner of the musical universe you were in to dig up such a gem.
It's also one of the most explicit songs that we've had in this thread so far - and there can be no misunderstanding because, according to the five seconds research I did, "pussy" has been in use as slang since the 1600s.


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