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Rockafella Skank 12-23-2003 09:35 PM

The Matrix vs. The Lord of the Rings
 
Which did you think was a better trilogy? I have seen all six movies and I have to say that I really think LOTR was much much better. The action was good in all three Matrix movies, but that was it. LOTR had good action, good story, and good acting. I think it was the better of two trilogies by far.

MobilizeTerror 12-23-2003 09:41 PM

I think the matrix, only because I am not a fan of those kind of movies

Xarius 12-23-2003 10:18 PM

The whole concept of the Matrix, specifically the first one, puts it way above LOTR in my mind. LOTR was really good too though.
I thought the Matrix triology was great because it was so original - crazy new ideas, and amazing special effects too. It also threw so much extra stuff in there, like the philosophy.

It was one of those movies that really made you think.

IamAlejo 12-24-2003 09:33 AM

I think the LOTR trilogy was better than the matrix trilogy....but the first matrix was the best of all the movies. LOTR was planned to be a trilogy all along. Matrix had a successful opening so they tried to push it into a trilogy. The 2nd one had NO point at all, and the 3rd one you could see they were struggling for ideas.

Rockafella Skank 12-24-2003 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by IamAlejo
... Matrix had a successful opening so they tried to push it into a trilogy. The 2nd one had NO point at all, and the 3rd one you could see they were struggling for ideas.

I don't understand why The Matrix hired such a crappy writer for Matrix 2 and 3. You think they could have been able to afford someone good. I mean the story completely sucked and made little sense.

IamAlejo 12-24-2003 10:31 AM

i agree completely on that one...its pointless and made no sense...good visuals but that is about it

C.Criggy 12-26-2003 11:18 PM

Anyone voting Matrix will be shot at dawn

Beor Uaine 03-14-2004 11:55 AM

LOTR all the way. I didn't like Matrix: Reloaded that much and I still haven't seen Revolutions.

Rockafella Skank 03-14-2004 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Beor Uaine
LOTR all the way. I didn't like Matrix: Reloaded that much and I still haven't seen Revolutions.

No need to see Revolutions. It was horrible. The worst of the three movies in my opinion.

Beor Uaine 03-14-2004 12:34 PM

Thanks, for the tip.

DJ_Jester 03-14-2004 02:27 PM

I'm gonna have to go with LOTR on this one. Matrix was a very cool idea. It was fresh and had a computer nerd like me very attentive but in the first movie when Trinity brings in the love stuff... I really think the Matrix went down hill from there. I'm not saying love sucks in a movie but whenever love came into the picture in the Matrix movies I found it very cheesy and almost forced... like the writers thought they needed to have some love angle in order to make it a good movie. If they had kept it to one movie... I would have thought it was an awesome project but they couldn't leave well enough alone.

Although I'm not really into the LOTR genre (makes me think Dungeons and Dragons and turn based role playing games like that) I think the movie was well written and even better done. There were so many plots going on at one time and none of them were at all slow. PLUS! With me standing at a commanding 5'5" (That's 1651mm :P)... you gotta love a story where short people save the day. :rofl:

Dr. Luncheon Man 03-14-2004 03:17 PM

LOTR was written by JRR Tolkien, a master author and linguist. The matrix was good but as a trilogy it sucks arse. LOTR is actually just one book split into three, it flows well and has and eneding which raps everything up. The matrix leaves so many questions unanswered and the final two movies just seem to be an excuse to use cool effects.

LOTR owns Matrix

Thrice 03-14-2004 03:48 PM

Back to the future trilogy!!!

...but i'd go with LOTR...Matrix was nerdy

jibber 03-14-2004 06:50 PM

LOTR definitely. its also alot better if you've read the books b4 you see the movie, well i dunno, maybe thats just me. i'm not a big matrix fan, i honestly think that the actors kinda suck, and alot of times they put in the little sappy trinity-noe scenes that just seemed cheesy to me.

Edgil 03-15-2004 01:23 AM

both so good it's hard to say, it really depends on what you like more,
fantasy
or
sci-fi

but me personally I like both so it's hard to choose one heh heh ;)

Edgil 03-15-2004 01:26 AM

Lord of the Rings is more popular world wide and has a lot higher fanbase from the great books and Tolkien's ideas are basically the standard for all fantasy video games there are today.

whereas Matrix has created a whole new realm of futuristic thought and really created a great story within itself to relate to the real world and how our world could be or really is. You can't really picture yourself being in Lord of the Rings because it's all fantasy but the Matrix is so realistic that it could possibly happen or BE happening ;)

jibber 03-15-2004 04:37 PM

meh, it all depends on your angle. if you have a really good imagination, its easy.

PhishFood 08-09-2005 10:16 PM

The first movie The Matrix is completely one of my favorites, and i'd pick it over any one of the Lotr movies, but since we're stacking up trilogies I have to go Lotr

shandapanda 08-10-2005 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockafella Skank
No need to see Revolutions. It was horrible. The worst of the three movies in my opinion.

i agree and everything they said in reloaded happened in revolutions so if you got that, then there really is no need.

adidasss 08-10-2005 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by IamAlejo
I think the LOTR trilogy was better than the matrix trilogy....but the first matrix was the best of all the movies. LOTR was planned to be a trilogy all along. Matrix had a successful opening so they tried to push it into a trilogy. The 2nd one had NO point at all, and the 3rd one you could see they were struggling for ideas.

no point repeating what you said....i agree....

SaTaNsChIlD666 08-11-2005 09:59 PM

matrix totally kicks LOTR ass.....but it looks like their could be a whole nother movie

Josephine 08-12-2005 04:44 AM

That's a f***ing joke, isn't it???
LotR is SO MUCH BETTER than Matrix!!!
I watched this movie at least 10 times - each part.

tdoc210 08-12-2005 08:44 AM

LOTR is the fuc,king best i mean fu,ck the matrix it sucked big time and hobbitts rule and neo stand emotionless in a computer data base i mean come on cool world with like mountains and volcanos and ents and elves and dwarves versus im in a fu,cking computer that wants to kill us all wtf is up with that???

Urban Hat€monger ? 08-12-2005 09:30 AM

This sums up the Matrix movies for me.

'OK in the first two movies we`ll do this , this , this , this & this , it`ll be great.'
'Cool , but how do we resolve it all in the last movie'
'Who the hell cares , they`ll watch any old **** after the first two anyway'

marshmallowmonkey 08-12-2005 09:32 AM

did anyone else know that the matrix is based on the bible?why cant people think up new ideas?!i am sick of cheap remakes

Josephine 08-12-2005 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by marshmallowmonkey
did anyone else know that the matrix is based on the bible?why cant people think up new ideas?!i am sick of cheap remakes

Oh yes. We talked bout that in school for more than three months.
And it's true: The names ("Neo" is an anagram for the "One", btw), the dialogues, the objects, the colours, the score... I heard at least 12 presentations bout that topic. I could show you mine...

marshmallowmonkey 08-12-2005 01:28 PM

well!thta explains a lot!i would like to see those presentations!

Josephine 08-12-2005 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by marshmallowmonkey
well!thta explains a lot!i would like to see those presentations!

Ah, I need to search for it...
But, for example:

The name of their ship is "Nebuchadnezzar", it's from the book of Daniel:

Nebuchadnezzar, ruler of the Babylonian Empire, was the epitomy of evil. He would dine on the heart torn from a living rabbit, and it was his army that brutally destroyed Jerusalem, burned the Temple of Solomon, and exiled the surviving remnant of Jews to Babylon.

marshmallowmonkey 08-12-2005 01:41 PM

wow!no wonder it took so long to make,the research alone must have taken like,FOREVER!

Josephine 08-12-2005 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by marshmallowmonkey
wow!no wonder it took so long to make,the research alone must have taken like,FOREVER!

No, actually not.
The internet is full opf this stuff, there're whole websites bout that.

marshmallowmonkey 08-12-2005 01:46 PM

thats amazing,i meant the films though!and the people that research the films!for websites that people like you and i and many others trawl for odd little snppets of information.not the presentation!

Josephine 08-12-2005 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by marshmallowmonkey
thats amazing,i meant the films though!and the people that research the films!for websites that people like you and i and many others trawl for odd little snppets of information.not the presentation!

Yeah, there's so much behind every scene, every single shot.
But nevertheless: LotR is the better one (Although Hugo Weaving, "Elrond" from LotR, played "Agent Smith" in Matrix).

marshmallowmonkey 08-12-2005 01:51 PM

good connection.i love it when like,little glances are a reference to xyz or whatever.they mean so much in such an 'insignificant' moment.thats good directoring.i voted lotr,but the film would have never been made if it wasnt fo jrr.tolkien

Josephine 08-12-2005 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by marshmallowmonkey
good connection.i love it when like,little glances are a reference to xyz or whatever.they mean so much in such an 'insignificant' moment.thats good directoring.i voted lotr,but the film would have never been made if it wasnt fo jrr.tolkien

Yes, I love him. And, of course, the books are so much better than the movies, but... The films couldn't been done any better and I thank Peter Jackson for his beautiful work, his masterpiece. Everything bout the movies is just perfect: Every single actor, the beautiful landscape, the scenery...

marshmallowmonkey 08-12-2005 02:15 PM

as soon as i found out the locations for the films,i was set to pack my spotted handkerchief on a stick and fly away to new zealand.i cant wait for kingkong.i think he will do it kind of like 1940s and really classic and untacky,or do something utterly new and totally revouloutionary.

Josephine 08-12-2005 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by marshmallowmonkey
as soon as i found out the locations for the films,i was set to pack my spotted handkerchief on a stick and fly away to new zealand.i cant wait for kingkong.i think he will do it kind of like 1940s and really classic and untacky,or do something utterly new and totally revouloutionary.

Yeah, exactly the same with me. I dream to go to NZ after school (which means in another year)... That would be perfect. All these different landscapes: Snow, beach, veld and green forests... Incredible country.
Yeah, he's an awesome director, he proved so much sensitivity with the topic of LotR, I mean there was nobody before who dared to picturize it (except this horrible trick film. The movie company deserved to go broke!).
King Kong's got to be amazing, I'm pretty sure.

marshmallowmonkey 08-12-2005 02:26 PM

my da was telling me bout some awfull 70s cartoon version of lotr!the people should be killed

Josephine 08-12-2005 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by marshmallowmonkey
my da was telling me bout some awfull 70s cartoon version of lotr!the people should be killed

Indeed. It's horrible
But just as I said: Fortunately the company went broke.

SATCHMO 08-12-2005 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Josephine
Oh yes. We talked bout that in school for more than three months.
And it's true: The names ("Neo" is an anagram for the "One", btw), the dialogues, the objects, the colours, the score... I heard at least 12 presentations bout that topic. I could show you mine...

I think its more acurrate to say that The Matrix is not so much based on The Bible Specifically, but more a composite of various archetypical and mythological themes from various world religions and belief structures including Judaism and Christianity.

Josephine 08-12-2005 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SATCHMO
I think its more acurrate to say that The Matrix is not so much based on The Bible Specifically, but more a composite of various archetypical and mythological themes from various world religions and belief structures including Judaism and Christianity.

Yes, that's true, but the majority of parallels is from the bible. So that means Jewry and Christianity.


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