Xmas Is Crap
 

Ok we all love Xmas, but it's not all good.

For a start I'm sick to death of bleeding Turkey already.
Turkey sarnies, Turkey curry, Turkey with chips etc...

Post your peeves...

umm turkey is great. im so poor i only get it once a year. making it special. dont eat much turkey 364 days of the year. so one day of turkey is good. other than that xmas is good except for having someone pee in your goddamn bed cause they're too pissed to go to the toilet.

The screaming sh*ts I've acquired since eating too much rich food:mad:

Haha ditto. I've been shitting through the eye of a needle for the past 3 days now.

either/or...your a woman are'nt you?
Pissing the bed is a mans right. ;)

haha no im a guy, right track. i mean someone pees in my bed when u lend your bed to your 16 year old cousin who has asthma so u have to sleep on the floor and they get to sleep in your bed and they pee in and damn.

And the whole world's your toilet:tramp:

I hate when my 3 year old brother waked me up at 6 or 7 to open presents...

I hate "xmas". Right-track, be ashamed, its Christmas.

I'm not keen on Chrismas either. I really didn't want to put up those decorations.... - People might actually think I celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ!!

then why bother accepting any part of xmas? go to work/school dont take the vacation, dont accept the gifts.

Its funny to think about people that complain about what the holiday is for but yet are first in line with their hands out for their own personal gain.

well thats mostly here, Fenix weren't you aware to not like religion is to have cred.

Being religious is something the simple minded do...

I'ts Christmas, Christmas, Christmas. Sos AITA just could'nt be arsed typing it all, at the time. *is ashamed* I'm a lazy boy!

And Big3 you should also be ashamed of yourself mate.
To say religion is something the simple minded do...is in turn, simple minded.
I'm not particularly religious myself but it's my experience that religion and intelligence are not linked.

Some of the most intelligent and emminent people on earth believe in God.
As are a shitload lot of knobheads completely without faith.
And of course visa versa.

On topic...visiting relatives I dislike and people being nice to me just cos' it's Christmas.

do i sense sarcasm, or do you honestly think its simpler to believe in something than it is to disregard it?

^I doubt he really meant it. The fact that its the usually sarcastic and cynical Big3 and the lack of logic kinda gives it away.

And right-track, quite alright. Silleh pet-peeve of mine, no worries.

Very possible. I have to confess that some of Big3's posts are as clear as a quatrain from the prophecies of Nostradamus at times and can leave me a tad flummoxed.

AITA? At my defence and aid? Tis a shock to witness this text with thine own eyes, dear woman, a more foolish man might take such professions as tolerance. Be still my black and bloodless heart.

Yes in fact I was being a raging bag of deuche. I am religious, not uber-christian kill-you-in-the-name-of-Jesus religious, but I have my faith. I was snidely remarking on how I feel most people conduct themselves when it comes to religeon.

Right track, the post above was one of the better comliments I've ever received here on MB, from a man who feels he is constantly undersold, please accept my overwhelming appreciation.

yeah

I don't like that feeling you get when you know you forgot something but you don't know what. Oh and I hate everyone tries to be politically correct. If someone told me Happy Hanica (I know I butchered that) I would say it back to them and not bring up that I don't celebrate the same thing.

hahaha
"Hannukah"
I think you mean
I hate it how Christians get all pissy about how dumb it is that it is PC to say "Happy Holidays" when it is one more syllabul and who gives a f*ck.
Just say it. I bet the uber christians would get pretty pissed if someone came up to them and said "Happy Rhamadham", they would be like 'you terrorist', I celebrate Christmas. But it is perfectly ok for them to go up to everybody and say "Merry Christmas" and if you get offended then you are being absurd and immature

I don't think non-Christians should celebrate a holiday they don't even believe in.

We don't have much choice

The non-christians can call a day where they share presents and have the day of christmas. Most people know Santa more than jesus anyway.

Why do you think this vanilla.

being uber cynical here, do you really think most people genuinly treat christmas as a celebration of the birth of jesus? a lot of the people who celebrate christmas arent religious at all, me being one of them. they use christmas as a time to spend with their family in a loving environment. perhaps the wrong reasons, but reasons nonetheless.

me and my wife actually attended church on christmas day, and i can say from that experiance, yes alot of people do treat christmas as a celebration of the birth of jesus. not everyone, and not most for that matter but alot do. Now im not implying that everyone shoud go be die hard christians or abandon christmas. I was in fact, pointing out how plenty of people completely disregard religion and then turn around and expect gifts on a religious holiday. It would be like me asking for kwanzaa off at work or celebrating Chandramana Yugardi even though i have no faith or belief in those religions. So i can kinda agree with Vanilla, and Mr Sensitives reply is a good example of what i was refering to.

True!, but Kwanzaa and chandramana yugardi are not rammed down our throats from late September every year by the media and shops wanting your $$$. Not one of them imply it's a religious celebration either, just an excuse for shopkeepers to line their pockets

HO HO HO!

Jesus was born in spring. Christmas is an old pagan celebration
to illuminate the dark time. It's also a consumerist pain in the ass.

http://www.touchware.co.uk/Wallpaper/Insnow640.jpg

I left all my presents in a cab. :beer:

The worst thing i can think of is exhaustion. Christmas is such a tiring holiday.

...Tiring holiday...

Those two words should not be together.

Because isn't it logical? If you are Christian, you celebrate Christmas as when Jesus was born. If you arn't, then you are taking part in a Christian celebration that you don't even believe in.

I admit, it is very commerial, but it really bugs me when non-believers get down on Christians for why they are celebrating. I mean who really has the cheek to do that?

It would be like celebrating Chanukah when you're not Jewish. Or eating pork when you are a vegetarian.

Shouldn't that have read "when jesus was supposedly born".

I don't really follow. Who says their celebrating Christmas then by taking the day off. Maybe their place of business isn't open and like any logical person, they didn't go into work, or try to. And my original point was something like this: If I want to celebrate easter by hiding eggs and telling doe-eyed children that a giant rabbitt hid them everywhere, then what do you care. Just because what easter is to you is something completly diffrent doesn't mean than Im wrong because all I do it hide eggs.

Tons more people may share the same idea that its when Jesus rose from the dead, but that doesn't mean the letters that combine to make the word "easter" or the sounds those letters represent to english speaking people are inherently perscribed to a celebration of a savior rising from the grave.

And what the hell does non-believers getting down on christmas mean? Do all the atheists have a big dance off on December 25th? If you're going to argue something of this caliber, you need to use universally accepted terms that help illustrate your point. Otherwise im going to say I know tons of Muslims who didn't dance on Dec. 25th.

As far as celebrating it when your not christian, Define celebration. I don't think non-christians display a nativity scene or have a cake for jesus. I just think they trade presents, which to any real chrisitan has nothing to do with Jesus, and therefore, is not a celebration of him.

I like ya Vanilla, but I think you're way off the mark here, and you're making assumtions that aren't true, and statements that are nothing short of baseless. Honestly, I say jsut drop it because the longer you fight the heavier the arguments going to get. I see what you were trying to say, but it won't hold water.

And no cheeseman, it wouldn't be because no one thinks he was actually born on Dec. 25th. Its not his birthday, its just the day we celebrate his birth. I don't thats not quick to grasp, but you can celebrate someones birth whenever you want, technically.

I actually meant supposedly born full stop.

I see what you're saying, and I know what I mean, but ok I admit I'm not the best at explaining things.

This is what I'm trying to say:

That when people who don't believe celebrate Christmas, think it's only for giving presents, and bring down the Christian reason for celebrating.

I would really like to know the reason non-Christians began to celebrate christmas, like where it all began, because it doesn't make sense to me.

Therefore, I am really asking for answers, not giving them.

Christmas seems like such a negative thing to some people, when it's supposed to be the complete opposite. Why celebrate something you can't stand? Why waste money on presents you don't want to give?

I think it's because through family etc it's kind of expected that we do these things.

No I'm talked about the roots of Christmas part-takers. How did it become that non-Christians give presents at that time?

Christmas used to be Yule, Vanilla.
Yuletime was the pagan celebration of the winter solstice.
Early Christians fused the birth of Christ with Yule.

http://www.candlegrove.com/yule.html

^this will explain better^

Thank you, it means a lot! Finally I'm getting somewhere.

Trust christians to bugger everyone's fun;)

^ *stabs with a cross* :laughing:

It better be inverted:tramp: