I fail to see how that's relevant to pulling out not working ...

I think that it's both man and woman's responsibilty. They both should be responsible for what happens, not just the guy. And the girl should be the one who thinks more, after all, she's got to put up with the kid.

just put the condom on. be on the safe side. or maybe you want kids.

There's no point. Sure it might be better, but it's not gonna be better when you have loads of little babies running around and eating at your wallet.

think of the babies as a retirment plan. when u get too old to move they will help you.

^^haha classic. today has just been a hobo/eitheror pat on the back session really. And I must learn to stay on topic! I keep doing this. Anyway, I'll try and stay on topic from now on.

I think everyone should agree that both parties are responsible for what happens on the night, and both should remain level headed and not get to carried away.

yes. me must stay on topic! no more useless spamming. much like this post. oh ****.

dont be so biased out of ignorance.. you didnt read that I wrote that girls should have birth control - **** its practically in the title.

theres no point putting a condom on if the girl likes it as much as the guy does without it. I once again will say that they should have the birth control since it is ultimatly their choice to do it.

I wasn't arguing with you-it was a generalisation. In fact I never read what you wrote. I just posted my opinion on the issue up. Now I have read what you wrote, I don't see there is a problem with it. Both of you don't want to use protection, so you both don't. Your decision, your consequences.

yep. i think we can all agree it's just about choice. be stupid and dont protect and you run the risk of getting pregnant. thats all their is to it. or if all else fails get your partner tested for various diseases and then give it to her in the ass. what a charmer