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littleknowitall 04-04-2006 04:34 AM

chavs.
 
it was on pretty late but did anyone watch that programme on sky three, a documentary defending the right of chavs, their creativity, inteligence, confidence, insicurities due to pressure from other classes of people which forces them to lash out, its our fault they're so angry!......WHAT A LOAD OF ABSOLUTE, 100 PERCENT, DOWN-AND-OUT, NO QUESTIONS ASKED, UTTER BOLLOCKS!
and that lady presenting it, god how she just needed a kick in the c.unt.
anyone unfortunate enough to catch it? was on at about 1.

MURDER JUNKIE 04-04-2006 04:36 AM

as a north american I will be the one to ask, what is a chav?

All Brits seem to have a common dislike for them?

littleknowitall 04-04-2006 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by MURDER JUNKIE
as a north american I will be the one to ask, what is a chav?

All Brits seem to have a common dislike for them?

that was the point made, that they were being slandered by the middle class, erm a chav is a traditional 'lower-class', burbery wearing, violent, ect. sort of person. i mean there are many features to it, its basically a god awfull trend of common idiocy thats sweeping britian. theres loads of other words for them, but chavs the most commonly used. you seen little britian? if so then vicki pollard is a chav pistake...

littleknowitall 04-04-2006 04:40 AM

www.chavscum.co.uk just found this, might answer your questions.

MURDER JUNKIE 04-04-2006 04:44 AM

Hah, you Brits are hilarious!! In North America this scum has been around for over twenty years in every city and every town. Come on over for a visit if you want to see some real scum

littleknowitall 04-04-2006 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by MURDER JUNKIE
Hah, you Brits are hilarious!! In North America this scum has been around for over twenty years in every city and every town. Come on over for a visit if you want to see some real scum

oh theyve been here for a long time too its just only now the media have bothered getting hold of it, personally im rarely if ever bothered by anyone, regardless of what sort of person they are. but i have to say i've not met a steriotypical chav yet who could pronounce 'th' or showed any understanding of anything music related.

DontRunMeOver 04-04-2006 04:55 AM

I went into a charity shop a few weeks ago to buy fancy dress.

There was a burberry baseball cap on one of the displays. Only £1. Should have got it, then I could have gone undercover in Chav-land.

littleknowitall 04-04-2006 04:57 AM

the last line of the programme was the fat ugly presenter saying "we are chav, don't hate us because we're beautifull" and i just felt like screaming we dont hate you because your beautifull we just pitty you 'cause your quite the contrary you ugly mucker.

ArtistInTheAmbulance 04-04-2006 12:30 PM

My home town is well confusing now.
Cause, well, about 3 years ago, chavs were EVERYWHERE, and it was, o course, an insult to be called a chav.
But now, seeing as about 60% here are scene kids, chavs are now underground and trendy, in a tardy way. Like at my bus stop, theres about 4 different messages sayin stuff like "EMOZ SUK, CHAVS RUL" and theyre being deadly serious.. Ye hear it all the time.
Its crazy how things change.
Personally, Id rather have scene kids everywhere than chavs. The scene ones are all quiet and dont bother anyone, its the chavs that go around yellin all the time.

OH. And if this is the same chav program I saw a couple months back, it was crap. She was defending all these gals in burberry in the streets with skirts that were made to be belts on, saying shizz like "now whos to say this young lady won't turn out to be a brain surgeon?". Hmmm. Answer = "Because shes 14 and pregnant for the second time, love."


Gah.

Urban Hat€monger ? 04-04-2006 12:32 PM

Never mind chavs , get rid of all those smelly wannabe goths that hang around in shop doorways stinking the place out.

Mr Sensitive 04-04-2006 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ArtistInTheAmbulance
OH. And if this is the same chav program I saw a couple months back, it was crap. She was defending all these gals in burberry in the streets with skirts that were made to be belts on, saying shizz like "now whos to say this young lady won't turn out to be a brain surgeon?". Hmmm. Answer = "Because shes 14 and pregnant for the second time, love."

:laughing:

right-track 04-04-2006 01:02 PM

Chav kid: "Mummy why are your hands so soft?"

Chav Mum: "Coz I'm like 13 innit".

tdoc210 04-05-2006 08:13 PM

hahaha chav hahah avacdo is the first thing that came to my mind

jr. 04-05-2006 08:28 PM

This has been most informative.

I have a few questions:

What kinds of music do the chavs listen to? The scene kids?


Also, I'll be needing a list of words that = chav. I'll pick out which one I like best, and start calling people that at work. LOL.

Rabid Sea Turtles 04-05-2006 08:34 PM

Wow, there are lots of chavs in the U.S.

jr. 04-05-2006 08:39 PM

Well, what do we call them? LOL.

I haven't been a teenager for a long time.

adidasss 04-05-2006 08:42 PM

you call them white trash....i believe....

Rabid Sea Turtles 04-05-2006 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by moley
www.chavscum.co.uk just found this, might answer your questions.

After reading "How to spot a chav" a gangster could definiltily fit under the chav category. Seeing how they have racked up every point possible on the website...certianly chav material.

adidasss 04-05-2006 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rabid Sea Turtles
After reading "How to spot a chav" a gangster could definiltily fit under the chav category. Seeing how they have racked up every point possible on the website...certianly chav material.

chavs are white people, therefore, the american equivalent would be wiggers...mixed with white trash....

Rabid Sea Turtles 04-05-2006 08:55 PM

^
Whoops sorry. I guess I missed that.

....but yes wiggers would work.

Rabid Sea Turtles 04-05-2006 08:58 PM

What would you call someone that was african american and fitted chav material?

adidasss 04-05-2006 08:58 PM

people asked me if i was a chav when i joined this site....because of the adidas obsession....i had no clue what that was either....thankfully, we don't have them in croatia....nor emo kids....

jr. 04-05-2006 09:01 PM

What's the difference between scene kids and emos? They sound as though they'd be the same.

This is very interesting. Now maybe I will understand more conversations around here. LOL.

Mama Booze 04-06-2006 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Rabid Sea Turtles
What would you call someone that was african american and fitted chav material?

"gangster" ;)

This has all been beyond interesting...not interesting. Funny.

DontRunMeOver 04-06-2006 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Rabid Sea Turtles
What would you call someone that was african american and fitted chav material?

They'd still be a chav, everybody who says they'd be something else would be wrong! There are loads of black chavs and asian chavs around Birmingham too. Its not individual ethnicity that's the issue, its more to do with where you were brought up and who you were surrounded by. If you're black or indian and grew up in a chavvy area then you may well become a chav. If you grew up somewhere else then you probably won't. Gangsta, however, isn't the same because:

a) Chavs don't necessarily have anything to do with gangs
b) The clothing they wear, although it fits under 'sportswear' isn't the same type. Gangsta clothing uses a lot of basketball clothes, chav clothing generally doesn't. Chav clothing uses some football clothes but mostly its non-sport clothing made by a sports brand (and bought from JJB or somehwhere like that) - by non-sport I mean you wouldn't want to use it for competitive sport because its not designed for performance.

So 'ganstas' don't generally fit 'chav material'.

To really be a chav, as far as I know, you do have to be British, or at least live in Britain or be from Britain. Why? Because that's where the chavs are, so its the only way to pick up true chav culture!

adidasss 04-06-2006 08:26 AM

are you sure about the ethnicity issue? somehow it seems to me that chavs are considered scum because they picked up certain behaviour from other ethnicities ( for example, it's quite common for black people in america to have a child at a young age isn't it? nothing abnormal about it, but when white people do it, they're white trash...as i figure *has no idea what he's talking about* )...also, as far as clothing is concerned, i figure there's nothing unusual for other ethinicites to wear sportsware and dress up like afro-americans, but when white people do it it's just wrong, and even though it's not the same as with afro-americans, it's pretty similar from the photos i saw of chavs ( baseball hats, golden chains arround necks, oversized sport jerseys etc. )...i dunno...

DontRunMeOver 04-06-2006 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by adidasss
are you sure about the ethnicity issue? somehow it seems to me that chavs are considered scum because they picked up certain behaviour from other ethnicities ( for example, it's quite common for black people in america to have a child at a young age isn't it? nothing abnormal about it, but when white people do it, they're white trash...as i figure *has no idea what he's talking about* )...also, as far as clothing is concerned, i figure there's nothing unusual for other ethinicites to wear sportsware and dress up like afro-americans, but when white people do it it's just wrong, and even though it's not the same as with afro-americans, it's pretty similar from the photos i saw of chavs ( baseball hats, golden chains arround necks, oversized sport jerseys etc. )...i dunno...

Those are some really interesting points there, although it doesn't change the classifications which these people fall into (its more of an art than a science, recognising chavs and non-chavs). It is true that black and asian people can be chavs (although the majority of chavs are white) and I think the idea that people are 'dressing up like afro-americans' - that makes it sound like a fancy dress party! - is debatable, as you could probably use the same argument to say that a black person who wears jeans is 'dressing up like a white guy'.

It seems strange to me that poor white people, in an affluent country, would be labelled with the 'trash' moniker so regularly, when poor black or asian people in the same situation wouldn't. It may be because the word 'trash' is an offensive way to describe a person, so poor white people, still being part of a white majority (in ethnic terms) are seen to be in a better position to take the insult, whereas using it to describe poor black people or asians, who are both poor AND an ethnic minority would be too obviously callous.

And, well, it seems a lot of people do just love hurling insults at people they don't know!

littleknowitall 04-06-2006 09:23 AM

i dont think its as much the underage pregnancies that is so much an annoyance its the fact that a steryotypical chav mother will have a good few kids at a young age and live in a council flat off child benefits and other free benefits:). moochers.

DontRunMeOver 04-06-2006 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by moley
i dont think its as much the underage pregnancies that is so much an annoyance its the fact that a steryotypical chav mother will have a good few kids at a young age and live in a council flat off child benefits and other free benefits:). moochers.

Yes, that was a good point. Its not having children early on that is the bad thing, its having lots of kids (at whatever age) when you know you don't have the money to support them and will need to take lots of handouts, in spite of the fact that everybody has been given loads of advice on contraception when they were at school and condoms are available for free from your GP, GU clinic, hospitals and loads of other places. In Britain there is a lot of financial aid available, so mooching (living off benefits) is much more lucrative than it would be in most other countries.

littleknowitall 04-06-2006 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DontRunMeOver
Yes, that was a good point. Its not having children early on that is the bad thing, its having lots of kids (at whatever age) when you know you don't have the money to support them and will need to take lots of handouts, in spite of the fact that everybody has been given loads of advice on contraception when they were at school and condoms are available for free from your GP, GU clinic, hospitals and loads of other places. In Britain there is a lot of financial aid available, so mooching (living off benefits) is much more lucrative than it would be in most other countries.

and that's where the resentment for them lies, that and the constant beatings the weaker have to endure from them although personally i've never had a problem *gloats* :D

Levithan 04-06-2006 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by jr.
What's the difference between scene kids and emos? They sound as though they'd be the same.

From where I live its the emo kids trying to be cooler by calling themselves scene rather than emo...

tdoc210 04-06-2006 06:01 PM

umm emo kids = less annoying than scene kids ????

Mama Booze 04-06-2006 06:03 PM

Ha. My best friend Lar from scotland [shh yes shes my best friend, shaddup.] used to be a chav...and her cousin used to date a guy who won "Chav of the month" on that site. tut.

jr. 04-06-2006 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by some_exotic_booze
Ha. My best friend Lar from scotland [shh yes shes my best friend, shaddup.] used to be a chav...and her cousin used to date a guy who won "Chav of the month" on that site. tut.


Wow. We never got awards.

Ok, I will relate the classifications from when I was a teen. We had the jocks. That's pretty self explanatory.

We had the preps, the equivalent of the emo of today. (or scene kids. I like that one.)

We had the hard rocks. Tough guys.

We had the burners. The guys that 'hung around in the parking lot' at lunch. LOL.

We had exactly two guys in the entire school that had an earring. Girls wore clogs and earth shoes. One thing, though, everyone wore pretty much the same clothes. Concert tees, and jeans. That fit.

There isn't much difference between then and now. The styles and the names have changed. The social classes haven't.

Spikey 04-07-2006 04:14 AM

Why do you guys keep talking about emo and chavs? What's the point?
Good people, bad people makes no difference, move on lol.

Then again this is in the lounge so hell nag nag nag...:laughing:

MURDER JUNKIE 04-07-2006 04:22 AM

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Spikey 04-07-2006 05:22 AM

bwahahaahahahhaa

DontRunMeOver 04-07-2006 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Spikey
Why do you guys keep talking about emo and chavs? What's the point?
Good people, bad people makes no difference, move on lol.

Then again this is in the lounge so hell nag nag nag...:laughing:

Why bother talking at all, eh? We have to have something to bitch about, it brings us closer together. And some people like Adidasss require a little information in our chosen bitch-field, so that they can join in the bitching with us. We wouldn't want to leave these people out, would we? (Unless we wanted to bitch about them too).

rocknrollstar5 04-08-2006 01:48 PM

chavs are scum. they dont have jobs and their whole family live off government benefits. i say this in safety as know a chav will never work out how to use a cmoputer and see this

Kurt_Cobain 04-08-2006 03:57 PM

Ok, most chavs are thick asses, but to say they never work is going to the extreme. And some chavs are nice, like the other night I was outside a pub at 'bout closing time, my brother-in-law was coming to pick me up. Well im only a little guy, so all these chavy dudes stood there with me, to make sure I didn't get mugged. T'was nice :)


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