I think the forum is in need of something new to freshen things up.

Something like this perhaps.....

http://www.musicbanter.com/showpost....2&postcount=35

:)

No, that arguement is arrogant pollution. Green Day is argueably punk. If they put it in the Jazz forum I might say something. But the issue here is everyone here clings to ideals from the 70's. Punk has been transcended. Its fact. Just because GD doens't meet your standards of what punk is doens't mean you should inore someones point or argument and attempt to force your opinion on them.

And yes Urban, I agree with you completly. It keeps us all informed and creates constant discussion.

People have been bitching since....always? Right? This is nothing new.

Well while we are all bitching (apparently all the time and 12 hours/day), I want to add that I would love to see increased activity in the forums that are NOT General or Rock/Metal. That would be nice.

I think the problem with that is, those are the most mainstream forums. =/ I for one would like to see more activity in the emo forum..but neh. I think people just need to start doing what they can, inviting people and being optimistic instead of extremely negative. Alot of the senior members are leaving and shiz, but that doesn't mean the sites gone to hell. Theres still plenty of posters just as good as the old ones its nearing summer, MB typically isn't the most exciting place 'round this time of year...

ok well the members that have left are jibber and RAR, and they didn't post all that often, so i don't think this was a massive blow to MB, we'll just miss their occational insight. I would not call this "members leaving."

They are not "arguably" punk, they are not punk at all. I'm not being elitist or a silly billy but it is the facts. Sure, some might call their early albums pop punk which would therefore make them a punk band but in reality they are not.

I said senior, and maybe leaving wasn't the right word, but most of the posters from my n00b days have left/rarely post now.

For all the fuss that is being created I cannot see what the big problem is. Like Big3 said, Jibber and RAR were senior members but to be honest they weren't the most exciting members of this community. It's nothing to burn down houses about. So a couple of people left-everyone is turning their leaving into a problem with the site, suggesting that them leaving was because of the faults with the site and not because of personal reasons. Not everything revolves around MB! I don't know about you lot but I will continue to post for a long time-MB is my favourite site and has been for a long time. The people on here are superb, the genuine talent that can be seen from the Song Writing forums is immense and I don't know about you lot but I have grown to feel that I know you guys even though I don't physically know you. I can't see MusicBanter buried in the ground at any time in the foreseeable future, and I don't think anyone would want that to happen anyway. So instead of being part of the problem let's be part of the cure and like Urban was doing think of ways to improve MB. This is a revolution!

Prove that their not punk.

Prove that Big3 Killed Your Rain Dog.

Who's Big3? If you mean, did the American Auto Industry kill my dog? Well I can dig up the ****ing corpse and leave it on your pillow if you'd like, otherwise we can leave it at, a dodge crushed my Jack Russel Terriers head. He doesn't breath anymore and he's rotting. I think thats good enough for me.

I've done my part, now prove their not punk.

well where does the "rain" part come in...?

Can we stop beating around the bush and let hiu answer the question? Until she does I'll put my say in it. Green Day are a form of punk but they are not PunkPunk. They are Pop Punk, so I suppose you could say they are Punk but notas you would call the Sex Pistols or the Dead Kennedys Punk. Could you honestly say that Green Day could fit into the same genre as the Sex Pistols.

thats old punk...they are new poppish punk...

Don't beat around the bush yourself. You can add prefixes and suffixes all you want, punks in there somewhere.

And he was a rain dog becuase he was beaten down. Like the waits song.

I wasn't beating arounf the bush, I answered the question that you originally meant for Hiu just so you would get an answer from someone. I thought that SEB was just making it so that Hiu could prolong her answer.

Oh...I kind of getit now :]

you can't answer it, its subjective, and punk has always have one foot in the pop market. Theres nothing that says punk can't be pop. Being pop doesn't make something not punk.

In fact I'd argue that punk was a movement back toward pop.

Hui is not a girl

i would love to see YOU do something about that.

and how is it, that every argument or discussion on this forum ends in a heated debate on whether or not Green Day is actually punk? isn't that fascinating?

because in that question lies the key to the universe and the answer to the age old question, "why are we here?"

Personally, I'm here because I'm tied to this PC chair and am being force fed drugs and alcohol.

It's a nightmare...Please HELP! :(

Que? I have always posted in those forums quite often, I don't see why you are trying to discredit me as some whiny loser. It isn't even an issue really, people should and will post when and where they like to.

I have not even spoken out in a negative manner in months. Quit trying to label me as an example of some problem, please. The fact that you and others are even looking for "problems" is questionable in my opinion.

I have a problem.
Get on msn bitch.

i'm actually not the one looking for problems if you haven't noticed from my post, i don't rely solely on MB to provide new music, but i couldn't stay quiet to your comment that you would like to see more activity in other forums when you yourself do next to nothing to rectify the situation. why should anyone else bother if you're not willing to go the distance? i just thought it was a bit hypocritical. i personally have access to the music you listen to, so i don't much care if you bother to make threads anymore, but others don't and right now we're talking about MB.

I haven't been on as often as in the past I admit, but whenever I am, I try my best to spark some music convo, and usually it is in those forums, because that is the music I listen to and/or want to discuss with others. Your entitled to your opinions, but in terms of going the extra distance, I think that I have, and my post history does show that in my opinion.

But it's good to know that I am just some object in which you can merely access my music. And as far as I can tell, we don't even have very similar tastes.

Edit: Also in terms of relying solely on MB for music, what does that have to do with anything? Who are you implying does that here?

Hookers made a thread yesterday. I think....

http://www.musicbanter.com/showthread.php?t=15152

It got no replies.

I'm not really concerned about replies, but I don't really believe I or anyone else should make a thread on EVERY single musician one happens to like. We have many generic threads here where we can talk about many musicians in one post. Should I make assloads of threads to make me look less hypocritical? I'll take it under consideration.

I really think playing the blame game and condeming who doesn't introduce enough bands is pointless. Its kind of annoying, making thread after thread on a band and if you're lucky getting two replies. People also begin to bitch if you make too many, its a wonder anyone post new bands anymore. I really don't think anything is that bad here. Same as it always was, but if you hate the lack of activity in certain forums then invite people you know that would post in the forums to join. Quit bitching and do something about it.

My comment about activity was just a passing remark, not bitching or trying to spark any change. People should really lighten up a little.

I think that greg or Alejo should really consider making a thread where posters can review albums. Kinda like our own little critic corner. Everything would have to be completely on topic, unless you have an album to critique, don't make a thread. Feel free to give your thought on an album that has been reviewed, but don't make requests for an album to be reviewed. As long as everything is uniform, it should be a great forum. The threads should be named like:

Morrissey - Ringleader Of The Tormentors

And everything will be easy to search, I think it is a great idea.

I agree, if i'm reading you correctly. It's been quite a while since we've had a juicy amount of band threads come through.

I know especially in the Rock forum it's been like hyenna's to the favourites threads. I mean I like favourites threads, they give a brief veiw of where peoples tastes are at, but lately the balance between favourites threads and band threads is way off kilter. Especially since the bands that are currently on rotation have been done to death (Greenday, Nirvana, SOAD, DT). I think I might go and try to refresh the place a bit in the next few days.

MB just needs a prod.

maybe there just isn't enough good music out there to talk about at this particular point in time

I don't argue this, what I feel is that Greenday aren't a pop punk band thus not a punk band.

I also dislike being called a she just because I find Ashlee Simpson makes better music than Radiohead.

Lip synchers do tend to perform better live. And they sound SO GOOD!

Still better than Comeback Kid.

wow this threads exicting well to make it more exicting id just like to share ive been picking at a scab for the last 5 hours

Yeah, and lets not even get started on who does a better jig.

or...just a suggestion...if someone wants to review a record, they can make a thread about it in one of the several already existing forums. if they happend to put a certain band in the wrong genre, a mod can move it to its correct place. Everything would have to be completely on topic, Feel free to give your thought on an album that has been reviewed, but don't make requests for an album to be reviewed. As long as everything is uniform, it should be great.

The threads should be named like:

Morrissey - Ringleader Of The Tormentors

And everything will be easy to search, I think it is a great idea.



but, hey what do i know, it might be just a little to crazy for some ppl to follow.

Anyone have a stick of gum?