Frownland

Anytime.

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Oriphiel

I think Frown and Lucem are mostly just waiting you to cite your youtube videos.

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MicShazam

hoping it won't be a bunch of Sargon b.s. or similar stuff

The Batlord

Goofle doesn't like Sargon cause he's a pinko leftist commie bastard.

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Lilja

I always liked Judge Judy's take on feminism:


I never agreed with everything the feminist movement seems to stand for and I live in one of the most "equal" lands on the planet. It just seems to me that it gets abused at times..with women stating that we are not equal enough with men and that more changes are needed and more women are needed to be seen in places that are typically male dominated (such as construction, the military, ect.). I persoanlly believe that women should be able to do what they want in terms of a job but not to do a job because they think they have the right to(such as working in construction because you have the right to rather than because you are good at it). Why do I want a lesser product because it is created by people who identify with a certain movement? If you look at construction websites in my area, there is a push to put women on the cover, in order to show "We hire women, therefore we are good": But who cares? Why
not just show good workers rather than showing certain groups?

Movements such as Metoo were neccesary but not to the point that people end up in jobs/schools/etc. where they are underqualified but use a movement to get there. To me, that is not fair at all.


I think that it should be about balance.

Lucem Ferre

The thing is that you assume they are under qualified because they are women. You wouldn't assume men are under qualified.

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Lilja

No. What I am saying is that I think alot of people use movements to get ahead or something that they might not be qualified for in the first place. I know women who do this and I think it is crap to do so. You should get ahead by your own merits, not because a company has to have a certain number or needs to show a certain face. And this is happening alot in typically male dominated areas like construction. Women are becoming managers not because they can do
the job but because they are a woman and companies have to show that they employ a certain number. to advoid lawsuits.

And the same thing happens to men in traditionally female dominated workplaces such as education. I know men who are qualified pre-school teachers but cannot get a job because of parental prejudice or being cold-shouldered
by colleagues. One guy I know called for a job and was told that "they don't hire pedophiles". Which he is not. But because he is a man, it was assumed. Now he works in a completly different field.

And this is coming from a woman who has worked for IT/engineering firms.

Goofle

Yes, people assumed he was a pedo because he was a man. That's what people do.

Or maybe he was a shitty teacher?

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Akai

Sorta like whats happening in nursery schools here atm, men aren't even being considered for jobs because perents won't allow it.

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Lucem Ferre

Women are the first ones to assume these things. Always saying stupid **** like, "She sucked dick to get the job!" Or "They only hired her to look progressive!". You let the straight white cis male get into your head and start oppressing your own gender. Now quit letting the straight white cis male think for you and start thinking what I tell you to think. I'm a straight white cis male, you can trust me.

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