Feminism

duga · 02-12-2010, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuna

I said "control", not influence.

Most people who believe abortion shouldn't be covered are those in the South with strong ties to their religion, some of the most stubborn people in the country. Rationalization is pretty rare. None of those issues are particularly controversial, either.

As much as I can see what you are saying, I find it hard to give most of the population that much credit. They have the views they have because someone told them to think that way. I wouldn't put it past them to totally change their opinions if one day either party got on the TV and changed their stance on something. Obviously, this can't count for everyone. There are people who use their brains on either side of an argument, but really, those people are few and far between. At the very least, if what I mentioned actually occurred there would for sure be some very confused people.

midnight rain · 02-12-2010, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by duga

As much as I can see what you are saying, I find it hard to give most of the population that much credit. They have the views they have because someone told them to think that way. I wouldn't put it past them to totally change their opinions if one day either party got on the TV and changed their stance on something. Obviously, this can't count for everyone. There are people who use their brains on either side of an argument, but really, those people are few and far between. At the very least, if what I mentioned actually occurred there would for sure be some very confused people.

What a beautiful (albeit unrealistic day) that will be.

I wouldn't do the people the offense of calling them sheep. Everyone's been told to believe something, it's what we put stock into that's important. A case could be made for both sides on different bases. Converting a whole party of beliefs just based on sound argument doesn't sound likely for either side, it's usually a gradual change in beliefs.

ProggyMan · 02-13-2010, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Paloma

roflmao then, by your standards, *** rights and civil rights in all have overstayed their welcome?

Feminism is not a dead cause, just recently an amendment was almost passed saying that health care wouldn't cover abortions. That kinda sounds like a feminist issue, does it not?! That sort of thing shouldn't even be a ****ing political issue though.

I really don't see why feminists try and present abortion as an issue they need to take a stand on because it discriminates against women.

~~Sansa Stark~~ · 02-13-2010, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ProggyMan

I really don't see why feminists try and present abortion as an issue they need to take a stand on because it discriminates against women.

What?

ProggyMan · 02-13-2010, 02:44 PM

I think I was pretty clear. Why is abortion a feminist issue?

Fruitonica · 02-13-2010, 08:56 PM

Because if it becomes illegal, or too difficult and expensive to access then it's women who bear the vast majority of negative consequences.

~~Sansa Stark~~ · 02-13-2010, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ProggyMan

I think I was pretty clear. Why is abortion a feminist issue?

Wow, probably because women carry the child for 9 months? Why the **** wouldn't it be?

Neapolitan · 02-13-2010, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bruise_violet

Does feminism have a place in our society?

We can vote, we can have jobs, we have educations... so is it still a valid cause?

Overthrow Feminism with Femininity! Feminism is over a hundred years old, come people Feminism it's fad like dancing the Charleston or something to that effect they're probably the same age. People aren't dancing the Charleston at clubs anymore so why bother to advance some antiquated failed "-ism". Feminism is just an excuse for guys to play video games all day long and collect government check while their girlrfriend goes to work at some high power lawyer firm - no offense to the women who allow there boyfreinds to do that. Womens place should be in the home in the kitchen sweating over diner by pushing buttons on her microwave - thats arduous work, it's not easy like in the old days when women had to prepare a meal, actually chop up the vegetables and cook it, set the table and then clean up after dinner.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 02-14-2010, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Paloma

Wow, probably because women carry the child for 9 months? Why the **** wouldn't it be?

Last I checked it took a man and a woman to make a baby.
You don't think it's an issue for the father as well?

right-track · 02-14-2010, 05:48 AM

Surely the issue of abortion is a moral one that includes both genders?
There are times when the egotistical cheek of a woman is truly staggering and this is one of them, along with leaving the toilet seat up.
Only yesterday my wife ordered me to buy her flowers (because of last year) for Valentines Day AND expected me to do the Sunday dinner too!
I was obliged to point out to her that Mothers Day was next month.

02-13-2010, 02:44 PM	#55 (permalink)
ProggyMan Reformed Jackass Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,964	I think I was pretty clear. Why is abortion a feminist issue?

02-13-2010, 08:56 PM	#56 (permalink)
Fruitonica Pale and Wan Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Aus Posts: 917	Because if it becomes illegal, or too difficult and expensive to access then it's women who bear the vast majority of negative consequences.

02-14-2010, 05:48 AM	#60 (permalink)
right-track Atchin' Akai Join Date: May 2005 Location: Unamerica Posts: 8,723	Surely the issue of abortion is a moral one that includes both genders? There are times when the egotistical cheek of a woman is truly staggering and this is one of them, along with leaving the toilet seat up. Only yesterday my wife ordered me to buy her flowers (because of last year) for Valentines Day AND expected me to do the Sunday dinner too! I was obliged to point out to her that Mothers Day was next month.