Drugged Up Kids
 

OK this is kinda based on my response to Fal in the your day thread about kids being put on medication for all sorts of behavioral problems.

It seems to me virtually every teen I meet these days is on drugs for some problem or disorder they have and it makes me wonder why.

My own personal opinion of this is I think it`s a decline in standards myself. Physical activity in schools is at the lowest it ever has been , dicipline is virtually non existent , and kids gorge themselves on crap from McDonalds and other junk foods stuffed full of artificial addetives & presevatives....

And then they wonder why they have hyperactive kids running around causing havoc.

It seems to me nobody wants to take responsability.The teachers don`t give a sh*t they just want the easiest & quickest way to sort these kids out.The parents are too busy to cook proper meals or take them places where they can do physical activity , so they just let them rot in front of the TV/Computer/X box stuffing themselves with cheap convenience food.

And as for the kids themselves , well what do you think they`d rather do , eat carrots or cabbage or eat a big mac, play on a computer or run around a playing field for a couple of hours. I mean why go to all that effort when you can just pop a pill & impress your friends wearing your disorder like a badge to say how ****ed up you are.

A couple of years ago I was diagnosed with depression & given a perscription for anti-depressents. I ripped it up, the last thing I wanted was to be miserable AND an addict to something that wasn`t even a cure for it , but just something to make me feel better for a few hours.I decided to take responsability for myself ,ate proper meals , did regular excercise and slept properly.Within a couple months I felt like a new person and I don`t regret once ripping up that perscription.

I`m not saying this would work with everybody , but it does seem strange to me given the condition things are in at the moment and the way kids are turning out, I don`t really see how handing out pills to all & sundry does any good.

I would be interested to see what others think.

I'd rather eat an actual cooked meal. They taste better. As for outdoor activity, I'm not a person to jump at the opurtunity but I'll take part in it if I'm not tired.

In the 90s there were vaccines that had the presence of mercury and they put that into babies. That fucked us all up.

I do agree about your depression statement of depression. Again I'm not sure if it would work for everyone but I just changed tiny little things and now I'm happy all the time.

It's just attention seeking if you ask me, my brother had a.d.h.d and my mother refused to put him on pills 'cause some scientists say it can give you drug addictions later on in life, 5 years down the line and he's learned to control his anger problems just fine.
pills are **** unless your using them for recriational purposes, mind you they're a bit naff under those circumstances...

1990 - If you told a kid to go do something he'd go outside and ride a bike.
2006 - If you told a kid to go do something he'd go to the lounge and turn the Playstation on.

The key reason for kids being fucked over on medication is they don't give their brain enough exercise. The mind becomes obese, too uninspired to focus.

Edit: Well, not all kids are ruined by medication, but the process of being put on medication is generally to the above.

I find hat all of this stuff seems to be the norm primarily for American society.

When I lived in Japan, there was nothing but physical activity to do. Even at school. I was surprised when I came to shcool in America. Half the time we spent in the locker rooms getting changed. In Japan we have a fitness test every four months. It lasted about a week. The test was designed for endurance more than how fast you were.

In the US, I have gym and my teacher is the size of a vending machine which I find to be outrageous.

And part of the reason kids might be so obese is ebcause of the food chains in America. I can't lie, I hate most American foods but Checker's french fries are freaking addictive and you have to eat like three of those ebfore you feel full. I one time ate a chicken sandwich meal at Checker's and half way through I felt my heart stop I think. And I still kept eating. Idon't know what you guys put in the food but whatever it is. . . .

But the major reason why so many youths today are put on medication is because of the many advancements in medicine and the fact that many nations depend heavily on the social aspects of psychology.
Psychologists are finding so many new ways to conquer so many problems faced today by kids. And I'll agree that somrtimes I think kids are given medication when they don't need it.
But before a kid is prescribed drugs, a doctor has to determine what is a serious mental health issue and what is the feeling of rejection that's causing someone to feel sick.
Whcih leads us back to the fact that a lot of young people today are taking medication because they're growing up to fast and getting themselves insituations they're just not ready for.
There are so many teen pregnancies, kids with stds, kids abusing illegal substances, underaged drinking, the pressures to fit in, and so much other stuff. It's a lot to handle. It's kinda sad really.
And part of the reason to all of this starts right at home. If your parents are around they can keep you from certain situations. But a lot of kids today coemf orm single parent homes, or their parents don't care, or they don't listen tot heir parents. And I am not for hitting your kids or anything like that but I'll tell you this: I never once defied my parents because I knew that if I did something really bad, depending on the situation they might be ticked and might break my neck. That and the only person that ever chastised me was my grandmom and she did it with a shen - hai (I think it's spelled that way).

Well that's my 2 cent

PS: I'll eat anything except beef, chocolate (in large quantites), raisins, and gritz. And I rarely eat pork. I eat about six - 8 meals a day. But I have a fast metabolism.

But this advancement of medical science doesn`t actually cure anybody , most of the time they are just stimulants to change the behavior of that day. You may as well give hyperactive kids pot and depressed kids speed.

All that stuff you mentioned about drinking , stds , drugs etc etc , just goes to prove my point. If people took responsability for themselves they wouldn`t need these drugs in the first place.
Peer pressure has always been around , so has stress , so have single mothers it`s nothing new.I don`t think it`s any worse now to what it was 10/12 years ago when I was growning up.

im on anti-depressionants

and they dont do sh!t
i dont think im even depressed...and i dont need threapy...my moms just just tryin to find an easy way out of how messed up i am...........


i dont even think any meds work.....you just belive there working so you start acting better........
i agree with urban....just make yourself feel good again and it'll be alright...

It's a tadmore complicated than that. There are so many different kinds off drugs. And the fact is some of these kids actually need meds.

I was specifically talking about teens acting this way.
And because this si teenagers we're talking about, science (not limited to psychology) has proven that the brain is not fully developed until you are about 25. Many laws are based on this fact. This why you're not supposed to drink until 21, because drinking earlier than that could slow down the growth of you frontal lobe (part of the brain responsible for reasoning) or could stop your frontal lobe from finishing its development entirely.
If a teen does drugs, sometimes it is poor judgement which can be caused by the fact that their frontal is under developed.
I don't know
As for single parent households. I'm sure they've been around since the dawn of time. But the fact is more and more are sprouting up every day. You can't tell me that it doesn't have an impact on the next generation or my generation even.

mmm.....im stupid..but even when im sick i refuse to take medicine..or go to the doctors unless its serious..besides my immunity will be stronger..anyways i get depressed alot..but i do not beleive its a disease theres reasons for depression sheesh......mmmm these disease were not liek present until when the 70's 80s?

It wasn't considered a disease because they didn't know how to fix it. Now they do. They sell you drugs.

The fuckers want money.

xactly.... adhd is not a disease neither is add. im not diseased but i hate paying attention..i have better things to think about

I had a great argument with this girl who claimed to have ADD, I'll post it when I get dressed :)

EDIT: Nah, i don't feel like it.

ADD is a disorder
Depression is a chemical imbalance in the brain. It's causes are not limited to stress as it can sometimes be the symptom of a physical illness.

ADD is usally treated with medication.

Depression (depending on the cause, stage, and medical history of the patient) is often treatable with medication, therapy, and sometimes both.

The two are nothing alike. Not even remotely similar.
But I will admit that there are a lot of kids running around taking meds for ADD
and the number of people taking anti-depressants is staggering. But giving the causes, I'm not too surprised.

yo, those pills aint sh*t son. you wanna huff on some paint thinner,that sh*tll get you ****ed up good.

you saying that like its fact, what the hell are you basing that on? none of my friends have playstations or any of that crap, they all play in a football team, at least.

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In Australia we have a fitness test at school every week.

Illicit drugs > Prescription drugs.

I'm prescribed to anti-depressants as well, I don't take them though.
I thought the "hand out" of perscription drugs was just mainly a problem in the United States.
I don't believe that medications should be given away so quickly to teenagers for small problems such as low grades, bad sleep patterns, misbehavior, or apathy.
I was prescribed Remeron because I got drunk and got caught.
I had to see a therapist, then a doctor, and I understood every question.
If I had answered "yes" to the questions that applied to schizophrenics I'm sure he would've started my on an anti-psychotic or whatever.
The fact of the matter is, I don't think drugs should be thrown to teens like candies.
Before a drug is prescribed, a full evaluation of the patient's psyche, or at least more insight than the patient's personal responses, should be given.

See this is the kind of stuff i`m on about.
Thats not being f*cked up , thats just normal teenage behavior.

Sometimes I think this world is just breeding a whole generation of drugged up office workers.It seems like to me that these days going to collage or university is considered the be all & end all of everything and if you can`t handle the pressure we`ll dope you up so you can.

I didn`t go to either collage or university. I`ve never regretted it once.

I was chatting to someone on here who I shant name who told me that she was perscribed ritalin to help her get rid of stress and hyperactivity so she concentrate on her exams better.

I mean WTF is that all about? If you can`t handle a couple of exams without swallowing pills how the hell are you going to cope in a job where you are expected to deliver EVERYDAY for the rest of your life.

I dont know if this is just where im from....but nobody that i know fits the description that you posted Urban..like i said it may be where im from..but at least here its a very small minority

I guess it depends on your school then. But I know that if I had to have a fitness every week as a Japanese student in a Japanese school, I would've shot someone. If I could move that is. :laughing:

I go to a school in America now and every last one of my gym teachers either have a bear belly, are the size of a vending machine, or don't look dressed for gym. Honest to goodness I had a gym teacher one year that had a fetish for cowboy outfits. I never saw him do anything except sit on the sides and watch us play.

Retalin is adrug usually prescribed to children or adolescents who suffer with ADD. In 95% of the cases the child outgrows it and no longer needs the medication. Some of the symptoms of ADD are: inability to focus or concentrate, hyperactivity, restlessness, change in sleeping patterns or inability to fall asleep.
I'd like tot hink the user you had this conversation with is a kid or an adolescent. If it is an adult then chances are this person has ADHD which is pretty common in adults and the symptoms are a lot more complex than that of ADD in a teen. And having ADHD does not mean you had ADD as a kid.
And the fact is ADHD is one of the rarer disorders amongst people and easily treated. And it's also most common amongst females.

And are you saying you didn't continue on to a higher education after high school because you couldn't handle the pressure or was that just something you threw in there?

Chances are you were not prescribed Remeron because you got drunk and caught. Although I can only think of one logical reason for why you would've been prescribed any sort of medicine in that sorta situation and I don't think you should've been prescribed anything.
You were most likely prescribed medication because you were probably underaged and caught drinking. And I'm going to assume that you live in an area where there is a set age for drinking.
The fact is some people think these kidns of acts signal problems wrong with you. And the fact is you were prescribed this medication because your doctor believes that the only way to correct this sorta problematic behavior is with medication. Which is not true.
I'm sorry to say, but your family wasted money on a doctor that wasted your time.
Everyone is given a choice in life. You chose to drink. If you got cuaght, you should've been punished for it, not sent to a doctor or whatever.

And most doctors are required to do a complete medical examination of a patient before they prescribe them medication. This includes but is not lmimted to getting your family's medical history, finding out how many times you were in a hospital and for what reason. And usually you have to see a therapist for at least twice a week for about four weeks before medication should be mentioned. It's just assumed that in that amount of time the therapist has a very good understanding of your individual personality and can decide based on her analysis of you that you are either of sound mind or are not.
And the fact that you were prescribed anti-depressants and don't take them but you are functioning in society just means that you don't need the medication.
But that's not for me to determine, as i am not your doctor, nor am I a doctor.
My best suggestion to you is that you talk to your family about it. Or your doctor.

I find this insulting to everyone's general intelligence. What did you prove? Nothing. I could have found an articel on the internet if I wanted one.

No i`m saying there`s an over reliance on it , there`s much more to life than going to collage or university but you wouldn`t think that from what I hear about the pressure to get there. You are basically told 'this is the most important time in your life blah blah blah' and you have people thinking if they`re not good enough to do that then they are a failure.There are only so many places that can be filled.It`s as if training schemes , on the job training or apprentiships don`t exist anymore because everybody seems to be told that collage & university is the only way.

And you can`t tell me the stress of that and the dissapointment of not getting it , or getting it & finding you can`t cope doesn`t have any effect.

Well i didn't pull it from the internet
I wasn't trying to prove anything
And if you feel like your intelligence has been insulted. . .well it's not my problem :)


I'm not gonna lie it can be very stressful.
The only reason I want to go to college is ebcause ihave some idea of what I wanna be when I grow up. And in order to succeed in my career choice (whatever itmay be) I will need a college degree.
And the fact is you don't have to go to college ot be successful.
So many people in my family never went to college or even high shcool and make more money than some trained, college educated professionals.

But the fact is, college and universities aren't the only problems or pressures faced by people.

Are you stupid? Do you know what it means to insult someone's intelligence? Me explaining to you how to boil water is insulting your intellingence. Me explaining to you how hypercubes are important chemistry is not insulting your intelligence.

You sound annoyed. :bringit: :)

And I doubt you can tell me anything about chemistry that I don't already know.

Have a good day

:laughing:
Raine is too f*cking stupid to know ****.

HAHA! Acting like she is an expert in chemistry
BHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Not even you can ruin my day.

But I took AP chem last year, I earned an internship at U Penn last summer because of my outstanding grades in chemistry.
So it shows what you know. Although it can't be much because I imagine your grades are about as low as your IQ.
So saying, I hope you have fun at your nearby community college :laughing:

:rofl:

. . . . .
Well, I've gotta finish eating and then get ready for my next class, so I'll leave you to your laughter
and continue you on with my life, something you really should try to get.:)

Bye Bye

I don't care what you know about chemistry. It was an example. I'm more than sure hypercubes aren't in everybody's everyday conversation.

OOO OOO OOOO Moses wants to know about hypercubes. They sound interesting.




Oh! And I don't take any kind of medication. I have some stuff for acne but I wouldn't consider that a drug. Oh and Raine you're stupid stop plagerizing stuff from google searches.

They're four demension figures. I watched a whole presentation on them and honestly the only significant uses they have are merely hypothetical(and those have to deal with physics and chemistry)
If you were ever to see a four demension it would expand, contract and, dissapear. I can't remember the exact reasoning behind it. I think it has to do with the way 3d figures look when they travel through a 2d plane, they expand and contract as well.

I posted a picture of how a hypercube is constructed. I found how it's made pretty neat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypercube
It didnt seem too helpful but you can atleast see what they look like.

Add to that the amount of soft c*ck parents out there who bend to the kids every whim and want and who's idea of displine is telling them they've been very naughty.

When I was a wee fella, noone I knew was on any type of medication. Nowadaays every second kids on some kind.

And I don't believe stress has nout to do with it either. Stress has been around for ever not something that's just happened in the last ten or so years.

I find it highly amusing hearing teens carrying on how hard their school life is. Having to only do 5 days a week from 8.30 to 3.30 must be ever so hard. Not to mention all the holidays you get. I know that would really stress me out, who knows I might even contemplate suicide within a month.

FFS get over it. As a teenager you haven't even starting living yet.
Believe me when I say the real world is nothing like your teachers portray it.

My dad`s medication for any attention deficit I had was to clip me around the ear & tell me to listen and stop acting like a twat.

Something I shall be passing onto my kids.

^I want to see videos of that.

My point exactly. I used to receive the same medication.

I bought some party pills last night.

Paryt pills?....Like E?

Why?