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Old 07-06-2006, 03:12 PM   #11 (permalink)
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90% of all fights end up on the floor.
Don't laugh at wrestling...it's a winner.
I gotta go so I'll make this quick.

All matches are not supposed to end up on the floor. Ending up on the mat in a match means yuo suck or yuo took throw.
Martail arts such as aikido, and judo, and someitmes ninjutsu, trains a person to land well and get ak on their feet as quickly as possible.
And inf act ost forms of martail arts uses techniques from aikido, which is a form of wrestling, that allows yuo to use your opponents strength against them or your stength against nature i.e. the mat

And in most tournaments hitting the mat is to your advantage. if you can get up quickly and land with minimum damage done to the body.
Although last time I checked, all organized tournaments in America have rules against death blows, head shots, and shots below the waist. In some Asian countries, there are no regulations for most of these things and falling in this case would be to your advantage.
if you still move and can get up, you will continue to fight. Staying down almost gurantees that you won't have to go to the hopspital.
Although i've seen one tournament in America, where a person was knocked to the ground and the opponent used basic gold belt ill bo karougi and damn near killed the guy. And he had the advantage and the sensei did not stop the fight or call a foul.
Althought hese cases are rare I am sure.
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Old 07-06-2006, 04:27 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Simply out of boredom I suppose, I'm making a thread on this subject.

So are there any martial artists here?
if so, what do you study?

I teach karate, tae kwon do, and aikido

I have taken up kendo, tai chi, judo, and ninjutsu

I am looking into something Muay thai boxing at the moment.
I'm gonna try hard not to be rude here but seriously, to teach that many arts, and be a black belt in that many arts at your age, you must be borderline superwoman or your ability across the range of arts you do must be fairly average.

Have you ever thought of becoming specialised in just one or two arts? Because I know being a Shodan(1st degree black belt) in Aikido means you've just mastered the basics. It's not until Sandan(3rd degree black belt) that you start to develop your own style and fully comprehend the art. And in any good school, acheiving a Sandan can take upwards of a decade to acheive. And Aikido is NOT a form of wrestling. The whole idea of the art is to blend with the opponent, not wrestle with them.

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90% of all fights end up on the floor.
Don't laugh at wrestling...it's a winner.
Proper wrestling is insanely good. Lightning strength and speed on both feet and floor, extremely tactical. Ju Jitsu is one of the most lethal arts on the ground though.
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Old 07-06-2006, 04:31 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I did judo for about 6 years but my dad is one of those people who'll push his kids too hard, from since i was little i did 3 clubs 5 nights a week and every competition around so i got real sick of it and quit,
now i'm unathletic
i should be starting up kung fu next week though, wanted to try BJJ but the nearest club is too far out of my reach unfortunately.
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Old 07-06-2006, 04:38 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I live in a rough area and to be honest I fear for my kids.
I look at them and feel sad that they will probably have to grow up here.
I believe that getting my kids into some kind of discipline, will focus them positively.
Show them what violence is capable of doing and therefore give them a healthy respect.
I want my children to have self confidence.

Question is...what in peoples opinion here, is the ideal martial art/sport/discipline out there?
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Old 07-06-2006, 04:40 PM   #15 (permalink)
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All matches are not supposed to end up on the floor. Ending up on the mat in a match means yuo suck or yuo took throw.
Well...yes and no...If you're referring to martial arts from competition point of view, you'd be correct depending on the martial art you're talking about...I however train for matters of practical self-defense in a real-life situation...Right track is correct about 90% of fights going to the ground (where just about every martial art can be negated by a good wrestler)...I train in muay thai and boxing for stand up, but my specialty is the ground game..Wrestling and brazilian jiu jitsu are my forte...I train with guys who are professional MMA fighters in the Ultimate Fighting Championship, and King of the Cage, etc...for practical self-defense, brazilian jiu jitsu is king...bar none
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Old 07-06-2006, 04:44 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Well...yes and no...If you're referring to martial arts from competition point of view, you'd be correct depending on the martial art you're talking about...I however train for matters of practical self-defense in a real-life situation...Right track is correct about 90% of fights going to the ground (where just about every martial art can be negated by a good wrestler)...I train in muay thai and boxing for stand up, but my specialty is the ground game..Wrestling and brazilian jiu jitsu are my forte...I train with guys who are professional MMA fighters in the Ultimate Fighting Championship, and King of the Cage, etc...for practical self-defense, brazilian jiu jitsu is king...bar none
I think the answer is right there. BJJ.
I want my kids to be capable of reacting in a real life situation.
Jiu Jitssu fits the bill.
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Just sign 'em up for a rugby leauge.
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Question is...what in peoples opinion here, is the ideal martial art/sport/discipline out there?
Baseball. They get to carry the bats. Start a team.
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Old 07-06-2006, 04:53 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Baseball. They get to carry the bats. Start a team.
Much prefer a Rounders bat...3 hits to every 1 Baseball bat.
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Old 07-06-2006, 07:04 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I'm gonna try hard not to be rude here but seriously, to teach that many arts, and be a black belt in that many arts at your age, you must be borderline superwoman or your ability across the range of arts you do must be fairly average.

Have you ever thought of becoming specialised in just one or two arts? Because I know being a Shodan(1st degree black belt) in Aikido means you've just mastered the basics. It's not until Sandan(3rd degree black belt) that you start to develop your own style and fully comprehend the art. And in any good school, acheiving a Sandan can take upwards of a decade to acheive. And Aikido is NOT a form of wrestling. The whole idea of the art is to blend with the opponent, not wrestle with them.
My family owns a few martial arts studios in the US and four in Japan. I've been training in martial arts since I was four. And I didn't get my black belt in Aikido until I was about 15. So I'm fairly new at having mastered it to a certain degree. And I myself would rather not have to teach it. But as I am employed by my aunt I have to teach it. The only way I'll stop is if I get a student that knows more than me. Then my cousin will teach it, as she is better able to.
And some moves used in Aikido are perfect for wrestling. knowing Aikido has been to my advantage in many judo matches.

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Proper wrestling is insanely good. Lightning strength and speed on both feet and floor, extremely tactical. Ju Jitsu is one of the most lethal arts on the ground though.
Jui Jitssu is lethal but hard to master.
When practicing ninjustu I usually use a shin hai or a staff.

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Well...yes and no...If you're referring to martial arts from competition point of view, you'd be correct depending on the martial art you're talking about...I however train for matters of practical self-defense in a real-life situation...Right track is correct about 90% of fights going to the ground (where just about every martial art can be negated by a good wrestler)...I train in muay thai and boxing for stand up, but my specialty is the ground game..Wrestling and brazilian jiu jitsu are my forte...I train with guys who are professional MMA fighters in the Ultimate Fighting Championship, and King of the Cage, etc...for practical self-defense, brazilian jiu jitsu is king...bar none
My knowledge of Muay Thai is limited. I'm juts getting into it and I still have to go to thailand for a 'workshop' on the subject.
The only thing i know about Brazilian martial arts is capoiera which is pretty intense. Some of those moves and sparring stances put wear on tear on me after a long while of going at it.
I love martial arts but I'd rather shoot bow and arrows all day than practice it.
It's one of the few martial arts that I don't think I'll ever be able to really master.
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