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bruise_violet 07-25-2006 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by woahairplane
obviously if its dead SOMEONE HAD TO HUNT IT.

duh.


Um... when I talk about hunting I mean killing animals 'for fun'. I don't agree with the slaughter of animals for anything, like I said I don't eat meat.

Hunting is horrible. Killing animals is horrible.

DontRunMeOver 07-25-2006 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by bruise_violet
Hunting is horrible. Killing animals is horrible.

I think it is difficult to see where the above statement draws a line between the seal clubber with his skidoo, the red-coated fox chaser riding a horse with a pack of beagles, the pygmy hunting monkeys with a dart gun and the Kalahari dweller walking across the desert for days to catch a large herbivore to feed his tribe. All of those are forms of hunting, so broad statements about hunting effectively condemns certain types of human survival needs alongside those cruelties performed for capitalist or archaic cultural reasons.

If you call killing animals for fun 'hunting', then what do you call tracking down, chasing and killing animals to eat when there is nothing else available to eat? Do you have a different word for it?

bruise_violet 07-25-2006 04:20 PM

There is no way I can say that everyone should be vegetarian.

But I know that in the society where I live, hunting isn't actually needed so I don't think there is a point to it.

DontRunMeOver 07-25-2006 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by bruise_violet
But I know that in the society where I live, hunting isn't actually needed so I don't think there is a point to it.

There you go, the good statement. Hunting isn't completely necessary in the UK or Ireland, because we don't need it for food or safety reasons. Some people choose to do it and whether or not they should be allowed to is a matter of ethical debate. In many other places, there are more important issues relating to industries, safety and sometimes human survival which does create some need for hunting and the ethics of it shift.

For me, its fair to say that support of hunting in the UK is one way to determine whether somebody is a twat or not (only twats support fox hunting here). Relating opinions on this to other countries and their hunting issues isn't really appropriate though.

Merkaba 07-25-2006 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bruise violet
There is no way I can say that everyone should be vegetarian.

But I know that in the society where I live, hunting isn't actually needed so I don't think there is a point to it.

There are only a few things in life that are actually 'needed' bruise. Petrol isn't a need but we fight for it. CO isn't a need but we still ruin the atmosphere with it.

Things are done because they can be, and we value what can be done with them. Meat provides a lot of good bits and pieces that veges don't, so there is a reason to go hunting, it might not be neccessary but it's still a reason.

Are you against fishing also?

bruise_violet 07-25-2006 04:42 PM

Yes I am against fishing. I'm a total animal rights freak :p:

I get what you mean about things not being needed, but animals have always been a huge part of my life and I care about them a lot. So of course, I worry more about them than petrol.

woahairplane 07-25-2006 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bruise_violet
Yes I am against fishing. I'm a total animal rights freak :p:

I get what you mean about things not being needed, but animals have always been a huge part of my life and I care about them a lot. So of course, I worry more about them than petrol.



i respect you greatly. i would be a vegetarian if i could. but chicken is just TOO GOOD!

bruise_violet 07-25-2006 05:02 PM

Uh... you're not funny.

ZeppelinAir 07-25-2006 05:09 PM

so your one of those people who want to ban fishing and hunting, you people make me sick, if it wasnt for people hunting and fishing, chances are your ass wouldnt be around now would it, your the kind of people who want to cripple the countrys that onlys means of survival is hunting and fishing.
from what is being said, you rather take a human life before the life of a deer

Rabid Sea Turtles 07-25-2006 05:11 PM

For a "man of few words" you sure post a lot, unfortunatly.


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