Anti or Pro-war
 

from all the disscusion i seen in the other thread to with war, i want to know where every one stands are you pro-war or anti-war

i am pro-war, the way i figure is that if radical military groups decide to get out of hand and start invading someone has to stop them, so there is the my view on war, i dont want a huge arguement on why war is wrong, just state what you are and why

anti unless its an epic battle of olde tyme

how old, roman, ww1, ww2, because im a huge ww2 nut

i wish i was a little bit taller
i wish i was hezbollah
i wish i had a girl who looked good, i would call her

:laughing: You rule.

You mean when people used to fight over land that they actually intended to use for something constructive, like farming or housing, or allowing the pure evil of their orc minions to tarnish the earth with its black, tarry sweat? In that situation, I'm pro-war. Well, I'm pro historical war/literary war but anti actual, occuring war.

If you recognise that military groups getting out of hand and invading (an act of war) is wrong, then shouldn't that make you anti-war? I'm all for people responding when a war starts, but if somebody has invaded then they've already started the war. So if you're against that invasion then really you're against war, no?

no not really, how many times has the U.S. gone into a country that was being invaded to stop the invasion and people want that to stop so i dont think of it as anti-war....and besides if the U.S. wasnt so war loving chances are the Nazi's would still be in power

I don't know. Tell me.

That's true. The war was happening whether or not the U.S. got involved though. The Germans kickstarted the war, the Japanese attacked the U.S., the U.S. just got involved with an already long running war. To be pro-war, wouldn't you have to pro German invasion of the rest of Europe too? That was also war.

The Gulf War, WWII, Korean War, three different time in which we went in to stop an invasion

You really have a lot to learn, at 16 you really don't know the politics of war yet. As far as being pro-war, it only further demonstrates your ignorance.

I am pro-war. It needs to happen every now and then. Think about it, if it wasn't for war, we wouldn't have this free nation of ours, slavery would still exist within our nations borders, and we would have been invaded. I believe war is needed in some cases. Not to take over new land unless the country we invade was an enemy that threatened us and was capable of taking us out. My great grandfather served in WWII and was proud to fight the good fight. He was involved in helping bring down Austria's worst creation........Hitler. And was stationed in Japan for a short time as well.

Those invasions were also acts of war. Are you pro-them?

So were my grandfathers and most of my friend's grandfathers or great grandfathers. That they managed to eventually drive out a psycho who had ravaged a continent through war doesn't mean they should be happy they had to do so.

Anti-war. i dont see how anyone could like suport war. i mean if its nescary yeah..

you can tell me that the nazis wouldnt be in power, can you honestly say that they wouldnt have gotten taken out by another country, and how is it demonstrating my ignorance, the US wouldnt be with out war, war is needed

yes i support those, i dont see how sitting back and not doing a damn thing would help any, it just make the opposing goverment stronger

War has changed in the past 50 or so years and the purpose of them has become more of a grey area. You do realize that young men and innocent people actually die in wars now right??

Btw, it seems awfully funny that both you and zeppelinair are awake at 5:00 in the morning in the same town

Why can't yo just face the fact that war will happen until the end days, and you can't stop a war on the 60's style peace crap. Until the end, we will always have enemies looking at taking us down. And all some can do here is sya that war is wrong. Well, no ****, I never said it wasn't I just stated thta it is needed to keep enemies at bay.

oh god not this bullsh!t again about us being the same person, we are not,

how has war changed, it hasnt, it will always be around and it will never stop, no matter how many people go against it, it will always continue

sio i suppse since it will always happen we have to supoprt it?

They died back 50 years ago to moron. Learn your facts. It's because we are friends, apparently something you can't find where you are. And why do you care?

Young men and innocent people have always died in wars (until some idiot invented bombs and missiles it used to be less civilian casaulties, admittedly). There have been so many wars, with so many deaths throughout history, that it seems bizarre to just bring up WW2 again and again... because it is probably the only example of a goody (Western Europe and U.S.) vs. baddie (Germany, Italy, Japan etc.) scenario. in which one side was definitely fighting the good fight and the other was definitely just being nasty. Most other wars I can think of just involved young men dying as a result of the selfish directive of their superiors. That's pretty much all war has ever been.

As long as it`s not you doing the fighting

I would gladly take up arms to fight dirt bags like you and any enemy that want's to destroy my loved ones well being. And I would use the most destructive force on them too, because I know that they won't quit until they have noway to advance and they have lost. Anyother dumb remarks?

That depends on how much more you have to say junior

You should talk.

Dirt bags like me?

Oh dear.

You seem the sort of person that would glorify war. My grandfather fought in WW2 , he hated every minute of it so much that he never talked about it ever again.He didn`t fight because he wanted to , he fought because he had to. The only time he ever did was when he was telling me that the most scared he had ever been in his life was hiding in a jungle in Burma hearing the Japanese approaching him with flamethrowers.

I think it`s a shame when people have to go through things like that in war they get glorified by idiots like you.

And then people see you using that 'most destuctive force' against people they know and think "I would gladly take up arms to fight dirt bags like that who want to destroy my loved ones well being" and so the cycle continues.

And I'd think "go ahead, pick up arms and go fight against people you've never met before. I don't approve, but then there's not much I can do to stop you either. Not that it matters much. You and they will be the ones ending up dead. Not me."

Any war helps control the human population. Although in this day and age people use it as an excuse to have sex and then we have yet another baby boom.

But for the most part i think wars of any kind are unnecessary and immoral, no matter hwat your goal or beliefs are.

I read a book called All Quiet on the Western Front by Erich Maria Romarque . And there was something in there that I'll always remember:
war pits young men (soldiers) against other young men of another colored uniform. Some of them will die to further the need of a politician's (ruler of a nation) goal. Rather than fight the war themselves they will use the youth of their nation to fight battles ebcause they are expendable.

If I choose to be against any war it is for that reason. The thing between Lebanon and Israel, I think is really unnecessary and is backed by a bunch of idiots. I've said it before adn i'll sya it again, Israel should be used to doing battle with the nations surrounding them. In all of the years hat they've been engaged in one war or other you mean to tell me that they haven't learned that there's a better way? I have nothing against Israelis but maybe if a few more die, someone there will wise up.
Maybe they deserve to have their nation destroyed and torn to bits. But who am I to say that that should happen? I'm not god nor any great being of supremem knowledge (that's for sure) but I am almost certain that if the US stopped backing them the nation would definitely crumble and there would be no war right now.

Your logic never ceases to amaze me, with it's complete idiocy.

Killing is never good. You could never give me a good enough why anyone deserves to be slaughtered.

child rapist is a good enough reason for me

Anti-war.

Every pro-war argument in this thread is crap.

Without war, we would have no-one to defend ourselves against. sure you could argue that this would mean that we would have nothing to test us, but what about space, what about world hunger, what about the myriad of diseases that claim lives every second? War is not only a waste of life, it is a waste of resources. How much money does the US put into military resaerch every year? How far would that same amount of money go towards developing a cure for cancer, or a vaccine for AIDS, were there no such thing as war? War will happen, there is nothing we can do to prevent Evil-Minded Bastards being born, and stopping gullible masses of patriots and fanatics falling for their speeches, but that doesn't mean that those of us who are actually thinking have to like the fact that this is going to happen.

I don`t really see how anybody can be 'Pro War' , if you are then i`m sorry but you are sick wanting that to happen.

Sure I might get invaded by Nazis/Commies/Aliens and have to fight them for freedom. That doesn`t mean i`m pro war it means i`m doing it out of necessity not choice.

This thread makes me sad.

How can people honestly say they are pro-war?
What is there to be pro about?

I'm pro "people killing each other ruthllessly for no purpose at all"
I'm pro "civillians being slaughtered in record numbers due to carelessness"
I'm pro "killing these civillans/soldiers ruthlessly"

Is war really something to be pro? That's like saying you are pro-AIDS or pro-Mass Murder.
Does that make much sense?

The pro-war argument has been smashed, I think.

pro-apathy

Agreed.

War is a lack of imagination.

Wtf. How can you be pro-war? ><

Judging by the argument for, only if you don't fully undersstand what it means.