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adidasss 11-22-2006 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by riseagainstrocks (Post 304398)
I understand that there are meanings attributed to certain words, but you wouldn't catch me dead in the "hood" because honestly 99% of people there are garbage. They have oppurtunity and throw it away to become "gangstas". Those people do not have any worth. And have you noticed that they're the only ones who say nigga? I don't call my friends crackers.

**** ignorance. And **** MTV.

you're a bright boy and i'm sure you don't really believe that people living in the hood have the same opportunities as a middle class white boy living in the suburbs does...becoming a criminal is for a lot of them the only way to survive ( or the easier way to get by ). but let's not generalize, not ALL the people in the projects are worthless...
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Originally Posted by hiu (Post 304407)
****** please.

Seriously the world has gone mad.

no it hasn't, when you use that word in a conversation with a white person it won't have any effect....if you had called me a faggot, i would have been insulted....noone in their right mind can defend the position that the use of derrogatory terms when adressing a certain social group doesn't have any malice behind it....it does, every goddamn time....

tdoc210 11-22-2006 08:30 PM

^ lol do you mean your mother an ass?

hiu 11-22-2006 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 304413)
no it hasn't, when you use that word in a conversation with a white person it won't have any effect....if you had called me a faggot, i would have been insulted....noone in their right mind can defend the position that the use of derrogatory terms when adressing a certain social group doesn't have any malice behind it....it does, every goddamn time....

They're funny. They're also shocking.

Those are the reasons why they are used.

HITLER HAD THE RIGHT IDEA, HE WAS JUST AN UNDER ACHIEVER.

adidasss 11-22-2006 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by hiu (Post 304415)
They're funny. They're also shocking.

Those are the reasons why they are used.

in your twisted little mind maybe, to the rest of us, they're meant to insult the other party...

hiu 11-22-2006 08:52 PM

Insulting people is funny.

Merkaba 11-22-2006 08:56 PM

If black people felt so strongly about it they wouldn't use it themselves.

RHYMEFESTkillah 11-22-2006 08:57 PM

The issue is NOT that he said ******, granted, that's a part of it, but it is moreso the fact that he told him that in olden times he would have been hung and then called him a ****** with all the hatred he could muster.

Also, cracker doesn't even have half the historical significance that the word ****** does. Calling a white person a cracker is not racism and if you say it is you are wrong. In fact, if you wanted to look at the judicial definition of racism, it is physically impossible for a minority to be racist. Racism implies power, power over another group of people. White Europeans are the only group of people in this country who HAVEN'T been subject to discrimination, minorities exert no power over the white majority and therefore, in technical terms it is not possible for a minority to be racist.

However, they can obviously be prejudiced, but this man only used cracker after he was humiliated. I have nothing against a comedian humiliating a heckler, but to use his race as a point of humiliation is where the problem is.

The word "cracker" is not offensive. It doesn't draw memories of a time that your people were oppressed, imprisoned, or beaten. Nothing, it means nothing. In fact, the word "cracka" refers to the "cracker" of a whip. Not a time of discrimination against your people.

Also, Riseagainstrocks, I hope you realize the ignorance in your words. You think that people in the hood live there because they want to be gangsters? Are you rediculous? People don't live in the hood because they want to be gangsters, people live in the hood because their parents lived in the hood, and their parents lived in the hood. Back in the 1920's up through the 1960's and 70's do you really think that black people had as much of a chance to climb the social ladder as whites? Since their parents lived in the hood and were poor, consequently they live in the hood and are poor. Not because they gave up some much better previous live to live in a run down apartment in the ghettos.

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If black people felt so strongly about it they wouldn't use it themselves.
How many blacks do you have in New Zeland? I think people who have no experience in the matter should keep their mouthes shut about it.
By the way, "nigga" is different from "******", whether you think that is absurd or not, it is. Saying "yo nigga lets hang out at your house tonight" and saying "****** you should be hung" are completely different. Difficult to understand, I realize, but please try.

hiu 11-22-2006 08:59 PM

LOL Ok so only white people can be racist lol.

tdoc210 11-22-2006 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by hiu (Post 304420)
LOL Ok so only white people can be racist lol.

apparently

RHYMEFESTkillah 11-22-2006 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by hiu (Post 304420)
LOL Ok so only white people can be racist lol.

Technically, yes. Racism implys power. Prejudice is different, but racism, in America at least, can only be exerted by the majority. Whites.

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In the immortal words of someone...when asked about the additions the african race made to soceity

reply. lets not even go into how they have set the world abck a few hundred years

Is blatant racism not grounds for banning on this forum?


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