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RHYMEFESTkillah 11-20-2006 10:57 PM

Cosmo Kramer makes an ass out of himself.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2AVfSBJQHA

Whatever semblance of a career this man had was just lost.
What a pathetic, racist loser.

RHYMEFESTkillah 11-21-2006 08:33 PM

bumpity bump.
C'mon guys, it's KRAMER...Seinfeld...weird guy...anyone?

Laces Out Dan! 11-21-2006 08:34 PM

yeah, i heard about this last night and this morning. Im ashamed. Seinfield is my favourite show ever.

hiu 11-21-2006 10:04 PM

Who cares. I think it's pretty hilarious to be honest. All Americans are too sensitive about racism, sexism and all that good stuff. He was obviously just saying it for shock value.

RHYMEFESTkillah 11-21-2006 10:09 PM

It's good to know that "Jizz in her shoes" sides with Richards.

hiu 11-21-2006 10:33 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZ1fXTx0-uk

I have to say though, Bill Hicks is a better heckler killer than Kramer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5Il-sA_NYA

The whole point of comedy is to fucking rip hecklers.

RHYMEFESTkillah 11-21-2006 10:44 PM

Bill Hicks vs. Free Bird Heckler, Bill Hicks vs. You Suck Heckler

Where did Bill Hicks get racial and go on a tirade that didn't end until both the heckler and himself left the stage?
I think I said in a different thread that a good comedian knows how to deal with a heckler...Kramer didn't handle the heckler well, and he came out looking like an idiot.

Urban Hat€monger ? 11-21-2006 10:47 PM

I`m guessing you missed the Hitler had the right idea comment

RHYMEFESTkillah 11-21-2006 10:48 PM

No, I didn't miss the Hitler had the right idea comment.
Kill them ALL.."Jew, Mexican, American, White"

He hates all people equally. See?
As opposed to a racist like Kramer who hates all people, not white.

Urban Hat€monger ? 11-21-2006 10:56 PM

Exactly , he did the whole shock thing better in a more thought out way.

I`de save your hate for someone who really is racist rather than some comic who`s glory days are long past him who probably only did it to get some attention.
By branding people everytime they say one stupid thing all you are doing is taking the emphesis away from real racists who openly preach hatred and do real harm.

RHYMEFESTkillah 11-21-2006 11:10 PM

Oh..because he doesn't say those things on a daily basis, he cannot be racist?
Those words wouldn't come out of someones mouth if they weren't racist. The pure hatred in his voice when he said it, the constant bombardment of the guy, he came out of this situation looking like a true dipsh*t and a racist.

I guess Mel Gibson isn't anti-semetic either right? :rolleyes:

Urban Hat€monger ? 11-21-2006 11:14 PM

Well if he does it again i`ll agree with you

adidasss 11-22-2006 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by _LesPaul43_ (Post 304218)
yeah, i heard about this last night and this morning. Im ashamed. Seinfield is my favourite show ever.

definitely the best comedy show ever...this puts a big smear on it....

TheBig3 11-22-2006 09:00 AM

I don't think so, Seinfeld will still be regarded as the best sitcom ever (stateside anyway). As Jack White once said "If Jimmy Page goes out and robs a bank I'm not going to throw out all my Led Zeppelin CD's"

adidasss 11-22-2006 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog (Post 304273)
I don't think so, Seinfeld will still be regarded as the best sitcom ever (stateside anyway). As Jack White once said "If Jimmy Page goes out and robs a bank I'm not going to throw out all my Led Zeppelin CD's"

i know that, but i'll never be able to look at Kramer the same way again....instead, i'll just see a racist motherfucker...

Merkaba 11-22-2006 01:23 PM

I'll still see an eccentric lanky bastard with rippled hair, who can't keep his hands still and is never short of a cigar.

Oh and adidasss, George is the man, I love it when he gets worked up, fucking unstoppable. Oh and remember the Bubble Boy episode?:laughing:

hiu 11-22-2006 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RHYMEFESTkillah (Post 304233)
Bill Hicks vs. Free Bird Heckler, Bill Hicks vs. You Suck Heckler

Where did Bill Hicks get racial and go on a tirade that didn't end until both the heckler and himself left the stage?
I think I said in a different thread that a good comedian knows how to deal with a heckler...Kramer didn't handle the heckler well, and he came out looking like an idiot.

In both of them...

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Originally Posted by RHYMEFESTkillah (Post 304243)
Oh..because he doesn't say those things on a daily basis, he cannot be racist?
Those words wouldn't come out of someones mouth if they weren't racist. The pure hatred in his voice when he said it, the constant bombardment of the guy, he came out of this situation looking like a true dipsh*t and a racist.

I guess Mel Gibson isn't anti-semetic either right? :rolleyes:

You're an idiot, seriously. Saying ****** doesn't make you a racist. Going around spreading white propaganda and exterminating people is racist.

adidasss 11-22-2006 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Merkaba (Post 304309)
I'll still see an eccentric lanky bastard with rippled hair, who can't keep his hands still and is never short of a cigar.

Oh and adidasss, George is the man, I love it when he gets worked up, fucking unstoppable. Oh and remember the Bubble Boy episode?:laughing:

i watched the entire series 3 times, now they're showing it for the forth time and it's still funny as hell..."George is getting upset!!" ahh...so many memorable moments....

Mr Sensitive 11-22-2006 03:09 PM

I've never, ever watched an episode of Seinfeld. :confused:

RHYMEFESTkillah 11-22-2006 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by hiu (Post 304319)
In both of them...



You're an idiot, seriously. Saying ****** doesn't make you a racist. Going around spreading white propaganda and exterminating people is racist.

You're the f*cking idiot if you think the issue is the fact that he said ******. He said "50 years ago we would have had you hung upside down with a fork in your ass, ******, look it's a ******, he's a ******, look a ******" Firstly, that wouldn't have been funny HAD he been saying it for the sake of being funny, which he obviously wasn't, he even stated on Letterman that he went into a "rage" and exploded on the guy. He didn't say that he was trying to make a joke that was executed poorly and got out of hand.

And I'm not sure which video YOU watched, but Bill Hicks did NOT leave the stage, and did NOT get racial in either video. You should probably watch them again.

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exterminating people
By the way, that's called genocidal.

Mr Sensitive 11-22-2006 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RHYMEFESTkillah (Post 304340)
he even stated on Letterman that he went into a "rage" and exploded on the guy.

Yeah he also said a few other things.

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"For me to be at a comedy club and flip out and say this crap, I'm deeply, deeply sorry... I'm not a racist. That's what's so insane about this."
Notice the "I'm not a racist part.

:)

tdoc210 11-22-2006 03:33 PM

lol, ******s
more liek old fashioned farm equipment..

jk jk
i might lose my job and be called a racist
jews did WTC

RHYMEFESTkillah 11-22-2006 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Sensitive (Post 304342)
Yeah he also said a few other things.



Notice the "I'm not a racist part.

:)


Of course he said he wasn't a racist, then again, he also said "You would be hung upside down with a fork in your ass you ******, ******, he's a ******"

Did you really expect him to go on Letterman and say "I'm deeply sorry, but those guys were ******s and I'm a racist"?

He's a public figure, he was speaking in front of millions of people, he had no choice but to deny the fact that he is a racist. Mel Gibson also stated he wasn't anti-semetic, but previous actions say otherwise.

hiu 11-22-2006 03:43 PM

Bill Hicks did exactly the same thing as what Kramer did. "Hilter had the right idea, he was just an under achiever". It's all the same. Sure Kramer didn't execute it as well, Bill Hicks is probably the best stand up comic ever but it's still the same.

It's obviously because you're a nigger loving wetback that you care about this shit.

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Originally Posted by RHYMEFESTkillah (Post 304346)
Of course he said he wasn't a racist, then again, he also said "You would be hung upside down with a fork in your ass you ******, ******, he's a ******"

Did you really expect him to go on Letterman and say "I'm deeply sorry, but those guys were ******s and I'm a racist"?

He's a public figure, he was speaking in front of millions of people, he had no choice but to deny the fact that he is a racist. Mel Gibson also stated he wasn't anti-semetic, but previous actions say otherwise.

Racist people don't deny being racist.

People care too much, it's not like Kramer is going to go out an kill a african american, or attack them. Too many people being too politically correct thinking they are heros, like yourself, fighting back against this supposed evil.

RHYMEFESTkillah 11-22-2006 03:45 PM

And underachiever as if to say, instead of singling out a particular race he should have killed them all.
The crowd that night was dumb as sh*t, and he went off on them because they were stupid and drunk, not because they were black.

Oh, and your last comment, you wouldn't have the ****ing balls to say that to a mexican or a black person, you know and I know that you would get your ass beat.

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Racist people don't deny being racist.
I'm pretty sure Michael Richards did it the other night on Letterman, Mel Gibson has done it a couple times.

hiu 11-22-2006 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RHYMEFESTkillah (Post 304351)
And underachiever as if to say, instead of singling out a particular race he should have killed them all.
The crowd that night was dumb as sh*t, and he went off on them because they were stupid and drunk, not because they were black.

Same thing, different context. Stop trying to be a crusader against supposed racism.

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Originally Posted by RHYMEFESTkillah (Post 304351)
I'm pretty sure Michael Richards did it the other night on Letterman, Mel Gibson has done it a couple times.

GG using the same two examples. You might as well say Richard Pryor was a racist.

adidasss 11-22-2006 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hiu (Post 304349)


Racist people don't deny being racist.

.

wrong asshole, coward racists do...

hiu 11-22-2006 04:18 PM

This is like calling someone a faggot and then getting labeled as homophobic.

adidasss 11-22-2006 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by hiu (Post 304364)
This is like calling someone a faggot and then getting labeled as homophobic.

yeah, where's the logic in that i wonder...*rollseyes*

riseagainstrocks 11-22-2006 05:18 PM

What is said and what is meant are two seperate things.

A white man says the word ******, he is a racist.

A black man says the word ******, he is not.

I'm not condoning the usage (this goes for ***got too) but I'd be lying if I said I'm against their use.

And why isn't anyone saying anything about the black guy in the video calling Kramer a cracker-ass mother****er? huh? Oh that's right, it's because he's black and must be oppressed so we should let him do what he wants.


**** political correctness. honestly I ****ing hate it and it hold humanity back so much.

Urban Hat€monger ? 11-22-2006 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by riseagainstrocks (Post 304380)
And why isn't anyone saying anything about the black guy in the video calling Kramer a cracker-ass mother****er? huh? Oh that's right, it's because he's black and must be oppressed so we should let him do what he wants.

Well I hadn`t heard that so if thats true then all he did was disrespect the guy in the same way this guy disrespected him.
Which means that my original stance of not labelling the guy a racist on one isolated incident was the correct thing to do.

Shame really that out of all the news stories covering this I didn`t read one about the black guy making racist comments.Maybe somebody should complain to the campaign for racial equality.

adidasss 11-22-2006 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riseagainstrocks (Post 304380)
What is said and what is meant are two seperate things.

A white man says the word ******, he is a racist.

A black man says the word ******, he is not.

I'm not condoning the usage (this goes for ***got too) but I'd be lying if I said I'm against their use.

And why isn't anyone saying anything about the black guy in the video calling Kramer a cracker-ass mother****er? huh? Oh that's right, it's because he's black and must be oppressed so we should let him do what he wants.


**** political correctness. honestly I ****ing hate it and it hold humanity back so much.

how so? not being able to call each other names? if you feel so strongly about it, i suggest you go in tha hood and call someone a nigger or a wetback....
there is a difference in using the word "nigga" as a synonym for "man" or "dude" and "nigger" which was used by the man in question...

also, the black man is not a public figure therefore noone cares if he's a racist or not ( probably is )

Urban Hat€monger ? 11-22-2006 06:44 PM

This whole ******/nigga arguement is total bullsh*t.

If you are so offended by the word then don`t use it period.

Don`t give me all of this 'Oh but black people spell it different crap , it`s still pronounced in the same way.

If you want to use a term of affection use a different one , there are plenty of them.

riseagainstrocks 11-22-2006 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 304393)
how so? not being able to call each other names? if you feel so strongly about it, i suggest you go in tha hood and call someone a nigger or a wetback....
there is a difference in using the word "nigga" as a synonym for "man" or "dude" and "nigger" which was used by the man in question...

also, the black man is not a public figure therefore noone cares if he's a racist or not ( probably is )


I understand that there are meanings attributed to certain words, but you wouldn't catch me dead in the "hood" because honestly 99% of people there are garbage. They have oppurtunity and throw it away to become "gangstas". Those people do not have any worth. And have you noticed that they're the only ones who say nigga? I don't call my friends crackers.

**** ignorance. And **** MTV.

riseagainstrocks 11-22-2006 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 304392)
Well I hadn`t heard that so if thats true then all he did was disrespect the guy in the same way this guy disrespected him.
Which means that my original stance of not labelling the guy a racist on one isolated incident was the correct thing to do.

Shame really that out of all the news stories covering this I didn`t read one about the black guy making racist comments.Maybe somebody should complain to the campaign for racial equality.

Here is the full video. Watch the whole thing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjE0E5lgm9Q

You will never see anything about the comments made back to him. I really want to know what was said to piss him off so bad though.

hiu 11-22-2006 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 304374)
yeah, where's the logic in that i wonder...*rollseyes*

****** please.

Seriously the world has gone mad.

tdoc210 11-22-2006 08:16 PM

In the immortal words of someone...when asked about the additions the african race made to soceity

reply. lets not even go into how they have set the world abck a few hundred years

swim 11-22-2006 08:19 PM

Oh shut up. Whatever your reason for saying that, legit or bull****, I don't care. Shut up.

tdoc210 11-22-2006 08:22 PM

****** = apparently offensive
nigga= not
cracker= a carbohydrate substance, or white person, seeing as crackers can be any color, black people fail again at making a racial slur more creative than whitey

hiu 11-22-2006 08:28 PM

People take this too seriously. If someone called my ass a mother fucking hillbilly sheep loving faggot rapist I'd just laugh.


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