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Old 11-22-2006, 08:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The issue is NOT that he said ******, granted, that's a part of it, but it is moreso the fact that he told him that in olden times he would have been hung and then called him a ****** with all the hatred he could muster.

Also, cracker doesn't even have half the historical significance that the word ****** does. Calling a white person a cracker is not racism and if you say it is you are wrong. In fact, if you wanted to look at the judicial definition of racism, it is physically impossible for a minority to be racist. Racism implies power, power over another group of people. White Europeans are the only group of people in this country who HAVEN'T been subject to discrimination, minorities exert no power over the white majority and therefore, in technical terms it is not possible for a minority to be racist.

However, they can obviously be prejudiced, but this man only used cracker after he was humiliated. I have nothing against a comedian humiliating a heckler, but to use his race as a point of humiliation is where the problem is.

The word "cracker" is not offensive. It doesn't draw memories of a time that your people were oppressed, imprisoned, or beaten. Nothing, it means nothing. In fact, the word "cracka" refers to the "cracker" of a whip. Not a time of discrimination against your people.

Also, Riseagainstrocks, I hope you realize the ignorance in your words. You think that people in the hood live there because they want to be gangsters? Are you rediculous? People don't live in the hood because they want to be gangsters, people live in the hood because their parents lived in the hood, and their parents lived in the hood. Back in the 1920's up through the 1960's and 70's do you really think that black people had as much of a chance to climb the social ladder as whites? Since their parents lived in the hood and were poor, consequently they live in the hood and are poor. Not because they gave up some much better previous live to live in a run down apartment in the ghettos.

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If black people felt so strongly about it they wouldn't use it themselves.
How many blacks do you have in New Zeland? I think people who have no experience in the matter should keep their mouthes shut about it.
By the way, "nigga" is different from "******", whether you think that is absurd or not, it is. Saying "yo nigga lets hang out at your house tonight" and saying "****** you should be hung" are completely different. Difficult to understand, I realize, but please try.
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Old 11-22-2006, 10:07 PM   #2 (permalink)
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How many blacks do you have in New Zeland? I think people who have no experience in the matter should keep their mouthes shut about it.
By the way, "nigga" is different from "******", whether you think that is absurd or not, it is. Saying "yo nigga lets hang out at your house tonight" and saying "****** you should be hung" are completely different. Difficult to understand, I realize, but please try.
We have quite a few actually, and I'd argue their culture is probably bigger throughout NZ than the black culture of America is, technically not the same sort but we still have 'coloured' people who follow the same idealisms. Thanks for ignoring my point by the way.

Also, this is difficult to understand I know, but please try, the spelling has nothing to do with it, verbally. Try this, two best mates and the black guy has had a bad day and is grumpy:

White person: "Nigga want to go play some b-ball?"
Black person: "You racist fuck"
White person: " I said it yesterday and you were cool with it bro"
Black person: "Yeah but today you said it with an er"

Fuck that. I'm against racism but what pisses me off more is when people exploit the innocent use of the word. And don't tell me that never happens, it happens allllll the time, and many thrive off it.

And again, if black people don't like then they should stop using it themselves.

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Old 11-23-2006, 07:13 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Also, Riseagainstrocks, I hope you realize the ignorance in your words. You think that people in the hood live there because they want to be gangsters? Are you rediculous? People don't live in the hood because they want to be gangsters, people live in the hood because their parents lived in the hood, and their parents lived in the hood. Back in the 1920's up through the 1960's and 70's do you really think that black people had as much of a chance to climb the social ladder as whites? Since their parents lived in the hood and were poor, consequently they live in the hood and are poor. Not because they gave up some much better previous live to live in a run down apartment in the ghettos.

Back in the 20's, I'd agree with you.

But take a look at the situation now and try and tell me 90%+ of it is not self-imposed.

Blacks in this country are holding themselves back.
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Old 11-22-2006, 08:59 PM   #4 (permalink)
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LOL Ok so only white people can be racist lol.
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LOL Ok so only white people can be racist lol.
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LOL Ok so only white people can be racist lol.
Technically, yes. Racism implys power. Prejudice is different, but racism, in America at least, can only be exerted by the majority. Whites.

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Is blatant racism not grounds for banning on this forum?
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Technically, yes. Racism implys power. Prejudice is different, but racism, in America at least, can only be exerted by the majority. Whites.




Is blatant racism not grounds for banning on this forum?
ahh sorry, but you're wrong on this one....everybody can be a racist....
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i didnt say it
im no racist
i happen to have azn, black, and hispanic friends
who are intellectual.
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You didn't say it, you just qouted it. Big difference. And this was right before you told me to pick some cotton, but followed it with a harmless "jk"
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You didn't say it, you just qouted it. Big difference. And this was right before you told me to pick some cotton, but followed it with a harmless "jk"
because i was just kidding
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