Saddam Hangs
 

So, reports indicate that Saddam Hussein is officially dead, executed by hanging with gleeful Iraqis dancing about his body.

Opinions? Does it bother anyone else that as a civilized nation we still support hangings, mass murderers or not?

it's rather inumae. lethal injection woul've been more cleaner

he was found guilty by an IRAQI court, sentenced by an IRAQI judge, and killed by an IRAQI executioner. US has nothing to do with it.

You realize he said supported not involved right?

the us supported it.a nd had it not been for the us caputring him he wouldn't have been hung. well he probably would've been hung but a little later

you realize youre merely splitting hairs right?

the Us captured him along w/iraqi forces actually

You realize you're a republican right?

Fuck off with your bullshit tonight

Hussein wasn't such a bad guy.

I played croquet with him a couple times.

Do we? I'm pretty sure the US was instrumental in removing Saddam. And regardless of whether or not we support it or not, oojay has a point; the trial was conducted by Iraqi's as was the execution

hussein wa slike, a father figure

I did say supported as in http://news.independent.co.uk/world/...cle2108214.ece

You can lead a horse to water, but you cannot force him to drink. You can lead Iraqi forces to Saddam, but you cannot force them to kill him. Unless you do a nationwide poll that shows me that atleast 51% of americans support his hanginh, then you have nothing to say.

Totally man, I bet you the majority of americans wanted Sadam to live!

you tell me. Im just saying that if asked, most americans would most likely be against it (even if he does deserve it). Dont start sh*t tonight.

I disagree,
The majority of americans voted for bush.
The majority of americans are obviously republicans.
The majority of americans would probably vote to hang Sadam.

We can speak in probablies until we are blue in the face. Claims like that require factual backing.

whatev. dead is dead is dead. i, for one, am not displeased. hanging, lethal injection, electric chair, stoning... it all amounts to a well-deserved death.

Are you saying the majority of americans voting for bush isn't factual? That perhaps the voting was fixed?

I agree.

If you see the video on the news, look closely. It's not even Saddam! The government is trying to cover up 9/11! They don't want you to know the TRUTH!

just b/c someone votes for bush doesnt mean they support the hanging of saddam. those are completely unrelated. Im sure that the people he tortured wanted him hanged, and they never voted for bush. Stop being an ass.

Eligable voters as of 2004: 221,285,099
Number of Bush votes 2004: 62,040,606
% of eligable voters who voted Bush in 2004: about 28%

It was a real mandate, riiiiiight.

Ethan, you aren't exactly write when you say stuff like "the majority of Americans are Republicans", because the majority of Americans fall in the center of the political spectrum.

All republicans are the same.

im not doin this tonight.

You sure you don't wanna have a go at me? My cousins arab.

i wouldnt go that far, doll.

not tonight bud.

You so serious.

Your mum must be so proud of you...

Probably not, Oojay can't read. He gets his news from the same place he gets all his well informed opinions; what he hears around the local bars.

I was actually at a rest stop at 4 AM (which explains the time) watching this on a TV, and there were like 10 people gathered around. Fox didn't show it but still, murdering people as a nation means you've still got one foot in the primitive 3rd world. I know here in the U.S. it actually costs more to kill a man than it does to give him a life sentence.

I don't really understand the idea behind killing a man for a crime. What good does it do anyone that he's dead? I'd actually welcome death, the slow rot of jail seems like a ****ing hell.

Actually post-dealignment, a majority of americans I believe are registered independants, but there hasn't been a year in the last 100 or so where republicans have been any kind of majority. Even in 1984 at their peak democrats still out populated any other catagory.

Republicans are less likely to defect. Democrats more likly.

Republicans do a better job at courting independants.

The higher the office in the election, the higher chance of defection.

This man deserved to die. The atrocities against the Kurds alone justify his hanging.
What I fail to understand, judging by previous posts in this thread, is the distancing (by some of the Americans) of responsibility regarding his execution.
Make no mistake...Iraqi law, Iraqi execution...yes.
Nothing to do with America (and Britain)...no.

I think it depends on how you perceive a decision. Are you a better person for allowing someone to live? Or given you would have them locked away for the rest of their lives, are you a better person for killing them?

I always think to myself a life spent locked up with the bare essentials of survival must be hell, but there is something about the death penalty that seemed that much more fitting.

He's Saddam Hussein.
I think I support a hanging in this case.
Nuff said.
Cheers to this.

If he's alive he still has a voice with which he could speak to his followers. He would still be dangerous if he were rotting away. It is foolish to underestimate the power of a former despot's voice.

I don`t think it makes any difference whatsoever.
The Americans will use it as an example of how they are doing good in the world. His supporters will use it to make him a martyr.
But thats basically whats been happening ever since he was captured.

Either way , the truth is that Saddam has been a red herring ever since the Iraq army was found out to be nowhere near as powerful as he had claimed and everybody had guessed since the first gulf war.
Before that he was a real threat to his neighbours. After that the best he could manage was by bluffing to UN weapons inspectors about his weapons capabilities and by playing to the worlds suspicions about what he actually had.
His death won`t mean a thing.

If hes in jail, I doubt they'd let him go out and give him public speeches and go book signing you know.

I agree with this.

The Western presence in the middle east spawns more terrorist. Period. We are the warm body that give the disease a place to florish. I'm sure Ill be defending this cursory point for a good three of four pages but the deal in the middle east in nations like Iraq is that force is the only thing that keeps peace.

When you think there is a place you're going after this life, and it will be made better by killing someone of a certain "group", there is no law that stops you. Tyrants are needed to keep barbarians in line. Iraq is an issue for at least another 30 years.