Would you mind reading what you write before posting it? I can't decipher this for the life of me.

no i like pissing you off.

I don't know if Turkey is really the best example, aren't they costantly on the verge of war being it a muslim amjority and a christian government?

Also, You're starting to sound like Bill O'Reilly...good world view.

Which is exactly my point. Legal immigrants to rich countries (excluding those countries which people have fled for political reasons perhaps) tend to be the most educated, as their qualifications means they have the easiest time getting a visa to this new country. Likewise, if you have met people from other countries who were taking part in development projects in 3rd world countries or who were attending academic conferences you would tend to encounter a much higher proportion of very qualified and educated people.

Both situations can result in the same biased perception if you take the people you meet to be representative of the country they came from. Like Adidass said, I was being sarcastic... or rather, not sarcastic but just pointing out the innacuracy of Big3's statement by showing how innacurate I could be if I wanted used the same logic. I know that it's not 1 in 4 people who go to the Ivy League in the US but if I had to base my knowledge purely on the edudcation of the people from the US I'd met and to use no other source then this would be a perfectly reasonably assumption. Likewise, if Big3 has based his knowledge on the people he's met and not bother to research more into it then I think I can understand how he came to make his statement about good education in India, however innacurate it may be in reality.

Actually, to clarify, there is a lot of very good education in India it just isn't available to the majority of the population.

I'm not too sure about education through out the entire country.
but some paper recently printed an article about pennsylvania and statistics show that there is a steady in crease in the number of drop outs in Philadelphia. And that through out Surburban Pennsylvania the percentage of kids that drop out is 3%.
This does not include amish folk because they don't have to remain shcool beyond the 8th grade.

Well, as long as somebody stops me from talking on and on about India I'm happy.

but there's loads to say about india. (including but not limited to education)

I know, that's why I want somebody to redirect me before I start saying it.

^ now it makes sense :)


on a side note. I have no clue as to why we have all thesr versus threads spraining up.
but if I had to vote for either of the two candidates in this thread. I'd pribably vote for both of them because well I don't know. but they'd both have my vote so.
also for future threads of this sort we should like have the option of choosing more than one person.

(I voted for addidass before i realized you were limited to one option. sorry big3)

adidasss got my vote as well, but both make a few valid points (hidden among 12 pages of bitching).

Hmmmm, do you find polling stations confusing too then?

I agree with Oojay on his last post, if I'd voted ealier it would have been for Big3 because I'm not even sure what Marijan was arguing about at the beginning but what argument has developed (what argument?) is now being better argued by Marijan. Although I normally, and still do, think Big3 is pretty great he seems to be saying a few things which I have to disagree with in this thread.