Chavs.
 

On the whole, your opinions of them? perhaps you are one and would like to slate me for making this thread :) s'all gravy.

who? arnt they like british wankers of some sort

Pretty much....

They are idiotic bastar*s who were obviously born yesterday because they have nothing better to do than insult random people in the street. 'Goff! change your style!' etc. Wtf! Why are they so retarded?

One question, will they EVER grow out of it?

Chavs, Skallies or whatever you want to call them are just ordinary people on the whole.

They are known to wear hooded tops, Nike trainers, Tracksuits, with more Jewellery than actually necersarry and are forever being tarnished with a brush of accusation. Often the accusations are unfounded and they are stereotyped because of their appearance.

They will out grow the chavism styles like all people generally do as I've yet to see an elderly goth or Emo.

Mikey, the main link between chavs is their dress (as Dezzy said). It mostly involves wearing 'casual clothes' produced by footballing brands in various shades of blue with some white thrown in. Chavs generally don't shop in high street fashion stores for their clothes, they buy clothes from sports stores (JJB sports, for example) or buy budget versions of the same from thrift shops. I think they get most of their jewellery from Argos or market stalls, instead of going to actual jeweller shops, although I may be wrong about this.

Unlike many social groups, chavs aren't a self-defining one. You're a chav not by calling yourself one, but by being described as one by other people. Therefore, your personal appearance is the main factor in this description, also the way you walk (people who get called chavs tend to have a more bouncy but awkward way of walking, which involves them swinging their arms about in unbalanced way), the way you talk (chavs tend to shout at each other in the street, particularly chav girls) and the places you hang around (pubs with crappy decor but cheap drinks and football on the TV).

In America, the phrase chav would probably be most akin to 'Trailer Trash', although Chav probably doesn't have as many negative connotations about the persons background, lifestyle or general effectiveness as a human being... its more of a comment on their dress code and demeanour.

Chavvy adults are generally fine, apart from when chavvy mums start yelling at their kids in the supermarket, but chav teenagers can be pretty annoying. I disagree with Dezzy that chavs grow out of it, because chav isn't a subculture in the same way that Goth certainly is and that Emo is to an extent. Chavs don't always grow out of their chaviness, they just grow up and become a less annoying version of chav.

From your descriptions I think we have them here in select parts of the country. We call them Italians. Though its a very select form of italian.

We generally refer to them as Gumba's or guido's (sp?) and they are commonly found on the streets of New York and New Jersey and less so in other areas of the Northeast Region of the U.S. (which is only because its the only part of the country where European decent matters). As one New York mobster said "The track suits? Oh yeah thats cause the bands go down real easy so you can get blow jobs quick in a bunch of diffrent places."

While i'm sure their not the exact same thing, their close. If I'm correct, the american version of the Chav talks baseball rather than football (soccer), speaks with a "fuh-ged-a-bow-dit" accent and generally likes gawdy fashion. The females have teased up hair, fake acryllic brightly colored press-on nails, constantly chew gum with their mouths open and laugh in a manner most closely akin to the bleating of goats. The female however is not specific to women of Italian decent, somehow the Jews of the same area are coming into the same culture. Although the men much slower than the women.

If you've ever seen any movie shot at the Jersey Shore or Brooklyn, thats an accurate depiction. I'm assuming a Chiv is sort of like Ali G?

No, not really, but yes I can see the association between Italians in the US and chavs. Chav girls tend to have hair pulled back very tight in ponytails and probably their number one fashion accesory is a pram!

Having cheked out a wikipedia thing about Chavs, it gave a few north american terms which are meant to be similar. A lot of them aren't really similar, but "Hoodsie" (for chav girls) and "white trash", could be seen as similar.

EDIT: Apparently "Guidos" is another good term.

I hope I'm not guilty of the same sin but do you brits know that the yanks don't always know what things like a pram are?

Uh, Pushchair? For a baby? Is that the US word?

Well, actually I think pram = baby-buggy and pushchair = pushchair. They push around baby moving devices, that's the main point.

EDIT: Yep, its called a baby buggy over your side.

This thread need pictures

Jeeeeeeesus. That kid will grow up to be a city banker and his dad will disown him.

Note, chav holding a book. Very rare image. Wait, is that a book or one of those push-the-shape through toys for keeping himself busy? What IS THAT CHAV HOLDING??

lol, maybe its because I never went to bed, or maybe its because I sat up all night talking about video games with a woman i've never met before, but this is a god damn riot.

We just call it a carrige here, or maybe a stroller, but the only reason I know what a baby buggy is, is because its held up in a childrens nursery rhyme.

Still, you remain my favorite poster here, and ever since you had the groundhog really. What I think I find most humerous is that i do this when im trying to speak to people in another language like "whats the word for this again? **** uh oh ya Banjo! Donde es Banjo?"

I don't think we speak the same language.

:beer:
Right back atcha big guy. Anybody with that big a love of Tom Waits, ability to (to my perception) randomly lay into idiots without mercy, or into smart people as if they were idiots, gets my vote.

Probably stolen

aye.

Chavs are so ****ing annoying. They come across as trying to be intimidating and actually have to think before they use their language so they sound chavy enough. Its so fake it disturbs me. Oh it should be mentioned that chavs either listen to very bad r 'n b, or the hidious sound of 'garage'

they appear as the type that would listen to rap, and call themselves black

That sums it all up! Oh and they tend to wear trackie bottoms that don't fit, so they wear the waste line just above where their boxers end.

So a Chav is closely related to most American boys who listen to Eminem and are in the age group of 13-24?

Only is they're abusive, academically challenged, and generally annoying.

.... aka, american boys who listen to rap and pretend to be black

http://mud.mm-a6.yimg.com/image/3577644607

Oh and whats the deal with the plaid?

well I hate r n' b- most of it, the bad stuff- but garage- like 2-step, is actually kinda cool.

And I have no idea what a chav is... I'm trying to understand...

ok, the pics help.

yes, I know the type you mean. They ruined the rave scene in New England.

Try to think of a chav as less of an image & more of a lifestyle.

They like the lowest common denominator , they listen to bland chart music , they love movies like The Fast & The Furious part 19 , they watch TV shows like Big Brother.

If you think of modern culture as a food menu a chav will have a McDonalds everytime.

^ ah the image that comes to mind is so funny, so bad...

um, they liked that song "Peaches and Cream" and go by names like Junior.

Well over here I thing the most common one is 'WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYNE'

haha!

They wear track suits- like the ones Ben Affleck wears in Good Will Hunting, with gold chains...yes, i think someoone already said jewelry

I`m surprised nobody has posted this yet...

www.chavscum.co.uk

^ ah hahaha! oooo, they look so tough! I scared sh*tless, aren't you baby? lol

you just described my step brother

sound like what we call wiggers as well, white guys who like to act thuggy and getto ish

no offence to anyone by that,

yes, thats exactly what we would call them...I just didnt have the guts to come out and use the term, so thank you ma cherie - no offense taken

your welcome, hey i love my step brother, and i'm glad he's kinda growing out of the stage... but it is very annoying especially when your in college and they hitt onn you cause you look good

On ratio, I know and like more chavs than I do emo types. Some chavs do need to take themselves less seriously but most of them are fine.

It's the football hooligans (aka townies) I've got no time for.

What is with labeling one another..

Geez..its like this..

If you like it listen to it
If you are comfortable in it wear it
If it makes you feel good do it

I love be categorized by the music I listen to, the clothes I wear, the drugs I use, the computer sites I visit, the color of my hear...

Dont you?

The whole point is that these people have no interest in culture and would rather go around theiving , screwing , and generally making people`s lives a misery.

Just as I said before it`s not about music , clothes or those sorts of things it`s much more deeper than that

I get ya. I do. But I see a lot of judgement passed around on here..and it gets to be bit overboard. I mean no one is better then anyone else cause they dont listen to a certain band or they know more about a certain genre of music then the other...

Well when they stop joyriding , having about 10 kids by 10 different partners , not doing a days work in their lives , hanging around streetcorners looking for a fight & shouting all hours of the night then i`ll stop judging them :)

same here, my step brother has a 2 1/2 year old son already, he's not even 21 yet

So all of them are like that?