Ralph Nader

Sparky · 02-12-2007, 02:55 PM

i saw him on daily show...the guy still bored me. Politics have never interested me. If the U.S ****s up any worse ill just hop back to denmark.

TheBig3 · 02-12-2007, 07:03 PM

Well the film documented how Ralph Nader didn't do a thing to the Democratic campaign. Its not Ralph Nader's fault that Al Gore didn't carry Tennesse, Arkansas or any other state his administration had affilitation in.

Is it Nader's fault that Gore gave up so easily.

And I find it humerous that he's aligned with "the left", what one of his policies is either left or right exactly?

swim · 02-12-2007, 07:12 PM

It's also not Nader's fault that the popular vote doesn't mean **** in presidential elections.

Strummer521 · 02-12-2007, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by swimintheundertow

It's also not Nader's fault that the popular vote doesn't mean **** in presidential elections.

That depends on the members of the electoral college, and their sense of duty/ethics.

swim · 02-12-2007, 07:39 PM

Exactly. Popular vote really doesn't matter. Even if the the electorates vote corectly and accordingly you could still get the popular vote and not become president ie: 2000.

Strummer521 · 02-12-2007, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by swimintheundertow

Exactly. Popular vote really doesn't matter. Even if the the electorates vote corectly and accordingly you could still get the popular vote and not become president ie: 2000.

That's extenuating circumstances though.

swim · 02-12-2007, 07:46 PM

Do you understand my point? Gore got the popular vote. Everyone saying that third party and messed up ballots is wrong. It's the system that's flawed.

Strummer521 · 02-12-2007, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by swimintheundertow

Do you understand my point? Gore got the popular vote. Everyone saying that third party and messed up ballots is wrong. It's the system that's flawed.

I know what you're saying. But I think it's not the system that's bad (IMO) but the fact that now due to the media and the mindset of the current public in general, the system can be easily manipulated. I can't think of any form of government that doesn't have it faults though.

tdoc210 · 02-12-2007, 08:12 PM

a gathering community, with no leadership?

TheBig3 · 02-12-2007, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Strummer521

I know what you're saying. But I think it's not the system that's bad (IMO) but the fact that now due to the media and the mindset of the current public in general, the system can be easily manipulated. I can't think of any form of government that doesn't have it faults though.

And so you're siding with Nader as a consumer/citizen advocate.

Here please watch the preview here and then tell me what you think:

http://www.anunreasonableman.com/

02-12-2007, 07:03 PM	#12 (permalink)
TheBig3 killedmyraindog Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 11,172	Well the film documented how Ralph Nader didn't do a thing to the Democratic campaign. Its not Ralph Nader's fault that Al Gore didn't carry Tennesse, Arkansas or any other state his administration had affilitation in. Is it Nader's fault that Gore gave up so easily. And I find it humerous that he's aligned with "the left", what one of his policies is either left or right exactly? __________________ I've moved to a new address

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swim dontcareaboutyou Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 5,188	It's also not Nader's fault that the popular vote doesn't mean **** in presidential elections. __________________ http://nakednaps.bandcamp.com/

02-12-2007, 07:39 PM	#15 (permalink)
swim dontcareaboutyou Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 5,188	Exactly. Popular vote really doesn't matter. Even if the the electorates vote corectly and accordingly you could still get the popular vote and not become president ie: 2000. __________________ http://nakednaps.bandcamp.com/

02-12-2007, 07:46 PM	#17 (permalink)
swim dontcareaboutyou Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 5,188	Do you understand my point? Gore got the popular vote. Everyone saying that third party and messed up ballots is wrong. It's the system that's flawed. __________________ http://nakednaps.bandcamp.com/

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tdoc210 ashes against the grain Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: new hampsha Posts: 2,617	a gathering community, with no leadership? __________________ We went back there and they had come and hacked off every inoculated arm. There they were in a pile. A pile of little arms. And I remember... I... I... I cried. I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out. I didn't know what I wanted to do. And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it. I never want to forget. And then I realized... like I was shot... like I was shot with a diamond... a diamond bullet right through my forehead. And I thought: My God... the genius of that.

02-12-2007, 02:55 PM	#11 (permalink)
Sparky not really Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,223	i saw him on daily show...the guy still bored me. Politics have never interested me. If the U.S ****s up any worse ill just hop back to denmark.