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Old 03-15-2007, 04:10 PM   #31 (permalink)
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People who lie a lot are liars, not fake. Didn't you describe fake previously as being people who act contrary to their inner feelings? That's not the same as a liar. A liar is somebody who (in terms of their own actions) does one thing but claims to have done something else. That's a different matter.

(unless you happen to have designed a perfect lie-detector test and plan on using to to ask people about their inner thoughts)

Okay..well..lets say I lied about the way I looked..what I did for a living and my favourite music...okay..am I then "fake" as in not the "real" me?
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Old 03-15-2007, 04:10 PM   #32 (permalink)
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And that conludes class today folks..

Someone mentioned..they're werent enough.."true" people in this world..and if the theory has been proven we all act...then there must be an element of facade to us all.
No it doesn't!

Is it even realistic to compare different quantities? Actions and feelings are not the same quantity.
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When Pete plays it is 100% live , your music if that's what you call it doesn't sound so good either? so you can't really critercize can you ?
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Old 03-15-2007, 04:13 PM   #33 (permalink)
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No it doesn't!

Is it even realistic to compare different quantities? Actions and feelings are not the same quantity.
But does one feed the other..can you have one without the other...

You feel love..you show it..action..

You feel sad..you show it..you cry..action...

Can you act mad without feeling it?
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Old 03-15-2007, 04:14 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Okay..well..lets say I lied about the way I looked..what I did for a living and my favourite music...okay..am I then "fake" as in not the "real" me?
If you have lied about it at one point then you may be "being fake", but that's different to you actually being a "fake" person overall. In your example you don't define whether it happened once or every time anybody asks you and the two situations are completely different.
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Old 03-15-2007, 04:17 PM   #35 (permalink)
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If you have lied about it at one point then you may be "being fake", but that's different to you actually being a "fake" person overall. In your example you don't define whether it happened once or every time anybody asks you and the two situations are completely different.
It happened once..or twice..or three time...months in between...but it happend consecutively...not just a one time event...
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But does one feed the other..can you have one without the other...

You feel love..you show it..action..

You feel sad..you show it..you cry..action...

Can you act mad without feeling it?
But the ways in which such emotions are displayed depend entirely on the individual, their culture, their upbringing. Even if you assume that two people will feel 'love' in the same way, one may respond by smiling gently, one may respond by hugging and kissing, one may respond by singing. And the same actions may be completely unrelated to feeling love without being a cynical way of fooling other people.
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Old 03-15-2007, 04:19 PM   #38 (permalink)
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But the ways in which such emotions are displayed depend entirely on the individual, their culture, their upbringing. Even if you assume that two people will feel 'love' in the same way, one may respond by smiling gently, one may respond by hugging and kissing, one may respond by singing. And the same actions may be completely unrelated to feeling love without being a cynical way of fooling other people.

True the variables are there...but the basic feelings caused by action doesnt change...that universal,right?
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NaNaNer, basic feeling caused by action? I don't understand!
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Old 03-15-2007, 04:21 PM   #40 (permalink)
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Urban, your old English teacher rocked.

NaNaNer, basic feeling caused by action? I don't understand!
Basic human feelings..can cause action.

I am not so much debating..but trying to get a better understanding.
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