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Old 04-13-2007, 04:56 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Actually it's the other way around , if you keep topping it up all the time the battery runs out much quicker.
Er, no, iPod's battery run on lithium-ion batteries which run better on partial, rather than full, discharges.

Keeping it topped up doesn't count as a full "cycle charge". There's about 300 to 500 discharge cycles to a battery. If you let it run right out, that's one discharge. If you keep "topping it up," it counts as a partial discharge.
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Old 04-13-2007, 05:16 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Yes but batteries will last and perform much longer if you consistantly run it down to say 5-10% and charge it, then if you only let it run down to 60% before sticking it on the charger.
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Old 04-13-2007, 05:16 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Er, no, iPod's battery run on lithium-ion batteries which run better on partial, rather than full, discharges.

Keeping it topped up doesn't count as a full "cycle charge". There's about 300 to 500 discharge cycles to a battery. If you let it run right out, that's one discharge. If you keep "topping it up," it counts as a partial discharge.
Well no because if you only use half the power , then charge it up instead of using the half that was already in there you are charging energy into it you don't need. If you do that twice you've basically wasted a full charge.
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Old 04-13-2007, 05:41 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Yes but batteries will last and perform much longer if you consistantly run it down to say 5-10% and charge it, then if you only let it run down to 60% before sticking it on the charger.
I'm not sure what the issue is here as you are essentially reiterating what I'm saying. I never stated a particular percentage, because it doesn't matter. Partial charges are still partial charges. I never said 5-10%, I said complete drains, which is 0%. 5-10% is still a partial charge and by charging it at 5-10%... that's a "top up".

Show me where 60% is stated to be better than 5-10%, please. I'm genuinely interested in where you're getting your information from.

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Well no because if you only use half the power , then charge it up instead of using the half that was already in there you are charging energy into it you don't need. If you do that twice you've basically wasted a full charge.
The difference is that you don't drain the battery completely in one go, which is an entire discharge gone. It's widely known (okay, I guess since we're at this impasse, not widely) that with lithium-ion batteries, you cannot deplete the battery completely all the time. It performs better on partial charges.

Haha, I'm not some crazy person just pulling this out of nowhere. I own four iPods, for better or worse. I've done my research.

Check out: Lithium-ion battery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia or iPod and iPhone Battery FAQ


Guidelines for prolonging Lithium-ion battery life:
  • Unlike Ni-Cd batteries, lithium-ion batteries should be charged early and often. However, if they are not used for a longer time, they should be brought to a charge level of around 40%. Lithium-ion batteries should never be "deep-cycled" like Ni-Cd batteries.
  • Li-ion batteries should be kept cool. Ideally they are stored in a refrigerator. Aging will take its toll much faster at high temperatures. The high temperatures found in cars cause lithium-ion batteries to degrade rapidly.
  • Lithium-ion batteries should never be depleted to empty (0%).
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Old 04-13-2007, 06:16 PM   #35 (permalink)
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What Apple's website itself actually says is..

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A charge cycle means using all of the battery’s power, but that doesn’t necessarily mean a single charge. For instance, you could listen to your iPod for a few hours one day, using half its power, and then recharge it fully. If you did the same thing the next day, it would count as one charge cycle, not two, so you may take several days to complete a cycle. Each time you complete a charge cycle, it diminishes battery capacity slightly, but you can put both notebook and iPod batteries through many charge cycles before they will only hold 80% of original battery capacity
So what it's actually saying is that doing it more often doesn't improve it or diminish it and that both ways work in exactly the same way.
And you can't totally drain the battery on an i-pod , it shuts itself off before that happens.
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My ipod just froze...didn't take long for it to start ****ing with me now did it? The only thing I did was put a different set of earphones...could that have caused it? How do you turn it off or reset it? Christ...
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My ipod just froze...didn't take long for it to start ****ing with me now did it? The only thing I did was put a different set of earphones...could that have caused it? How do you turn it off or reset it? Christ...
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My ipod just froze...didn't take long for it to start ****ing with me now did it? The only thing I did was put a different set of earphones...could that have caused it? How do you turn it off or reset it? Christ...
Throw it against a cement wall.
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You should have got an i-river.
Seriously, I've not had one problem with it and it's compatible with WMP.
I just connect it up and... Robert's yer dad's brother.
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