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swim 08-26-2007 07:45 PM

Your first post
 
Ok so go to advance search, on the left side select posts instead of threads, above which pick ascending rather than descending then in the search bar on the right type in your username.


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much love
I've always added to the discussion here.












but epic members deserve epic first posts
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Originally Posted by Don (Post 6637)
Hey, just wanted to post my reply to david thorpes article which can be found by clicking here: Radiohead Sucks

I emailed him the following, which I've yet to have a reply to. Tell me what you think. If you like radiohead read it but if not, whatever...Enjoy.

Hello David. Let me start by telling you a bit about myself musically before I tell you my opinion of your banter.
I'm 22, have completed all 8 grades on the piano, been learning the guitar and bass for 5 yrs each along with singing for 3 and also played trumpet for a couple in the school band. My best instrument however is the drums which I have been playing for 13 yrs. I am also in a hard rock band playing the drums and backup vocals. Why am I telling you all this? Well I know you know; it's obvious isn’t it?
I quite enjoyed how you structured your argument but am quite disturbed about a few things. The first being that you claim to be smarter than everyone reading it, which is very arrogant, even you must agree with that. You also make other generalisations throughout. I'm curious to know how much you actually know or think you know about music itself and not about all the conformities within the music industry and in particular bands, eg Radiohead.
Okay, your argument is that radiohead are 'tricking' people into thinking they're good when they're not, yet you never explain why they're not good or why they 'suck', even though the title or your article is that they suck.
Right now you're probably thinking that I’m just another huge radiohead fan or that they're my favourite band, well let me assure you that this is not true. However, being a musician myself and being able to play a lot of their songs, it becomes quite apparent that Radiohead are, to put it simply: extraordinary musicians. They are not like any other rock band to date which is why I think you don't like them. I think that you just don't get their music, and feel that critics just say they're good because they’re different. Well they are different; they are actual talented musicians. There are hardly any rock bands out there from this era and the past era that were talented musicians in comparison to radiohead. Most rock bands from then and now know some chords and some progressions that sound good together, just put them in and right some lyrics and basic melody to go with it as simple as that. Now, I’m not saying that bands like the Beatles or led zeppelin are crap or aren’t ‘good’, because that is subjective. But to say they are not as complex or as talented as radiohead in that regard is not. Radiohead however, actually use complex chords, complex chord progressions, eerie chords that fit because they don't fit (i.e. no one else uses it making them unpredictable, which in turn make them genuine musicians), complex time signature changes and key changes, (and keys) , they use multiple layers in many songs including choir, stings, abstract and extremely multifaceted percussion elements and brass, just to name the unordinary that, in my opinion, every rock band should have in their songs to make the texture thicker, and gives the songs more heart and accomplishment. Most rock bands don't even use keyboards or piano, my God, you need a piano if you're going to compose a decent rock song. I haven't even commented on Thom Yorke's absolutely amazing voice which you cannot (!) disregard. You say they suck but you know that Yorke is a remarkable singer don't you? You can't disagree with that. The way he slides between octaves, uses melisma, and how his voice effortlessly shifts from a sweet falsetto to vicious snarls. He also uses vibrato, rubbato, and has mastered his breathing technique which allows him to hold notes with ease; street spirit and sulk are great examples. I'd be here all day if I went through the songs and analyse how complex and talented radiohead are. If you ask me too I might, as long as it convinces you that you're wrong.
Moving on now. I agree when you say Pablo Honey was not that good of an album. And I find it unbelievable how the same band can produce albums like OK computer, the bends and Kid A. This is where your (and others who think the same as you) greatest suspicion must come from. Well did it ever occur to you that bands get better as they progress? Some don't I admit but most do.
In summing up, I hope you have come to realise that Radiohead haven't tricked the public because they actually are extraordinary musicians. You said: "Radiohead, the kings nerdy, boring, tuneless rock music", which is absolutely absurd. Please listen to OK computer several times before you say something as ludicrous as that. Tuneless?? If it's anything there's too much tune. And the melodies and chord progression are too complex. Which brings me to the down side or radiohead's music. More complex albums such as Kid A actually requires the listener to know a bit about music before liking it and really appreciating it. And it is a fact to say that they are a lot more people listening to music that aren't musicians.
I hope you’ve found this educational. I'll finish this by reinstating my argument. You wrote: 'You might tell me “David, there is no possible way you could dislike (insert name of terrible band you stupidly think is good). They are geniuses.” Oh, but I can, and I do.' Are you going to tell us WHY they're crap without using genealisations and broad subjects when actually discussing their music? I told you why they don't suck; now you tell me why they suck with an argument that's worth reading this time.


TheBig3 08-26-2007 07:56 PM

Allegedly this is my first post but i find it hard to imagine that I joined here in August and didn't write until days before my birthday. Anyways...

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I don't understand how you think the album is a disappointment. And also, its not an APC album, one song was written by them. If thats your cup of tea, then this wasn't a smart purchase on your behalf. I think the albums is solid, with the Imagine cover, as well as Joni Mitchell's Fiddle and the Drum, Lets have a War, and Whats going on. Speaking of which, why won't they let you write Marvine ***e

The Dave 08-26-2007 08:01 PM

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Here's my top 10:
1. Thrice
2. Underoath
3. Every Time I Die
4. The Devil Wears Prada
5. Heavy Heavy, Low Low
6. Evergreen Terrace
7. From First To Last
8. Saosin
9. Secret Lives of The Freemasons
I only listen to one of those bands now, god I hate my old self.

swim 08-26-2007 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dave (Post 246572)
I don't believe that my list included ny of those early 90's emo bands and the majority of my list is hardcore bands.

And Raine, Thrice has never been hardcore, Illusions and Artist where post hardcore at best with a bit of emo, but now they've gone into the Experimental genre.

lolz

I wish hiu was back



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Originally Posted by hiu (Post 67697)
punk is throwing bowling balls at icecream trucks


The Dave 08-26-2007 08:05 PM

Rofl, I was the king of *** sex back in my day.

acratertocoffin 08-26-2007 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dave (Post 391052)
I only listen to one of those bands now, god I hate my old self.

Wow, I would've hated you too.

CAPTAIN CAVEMAN 08-26-2007 08:31 PM

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Sucks that they lost their drummer... The drums in most of their songs are so intense. A new album from these guys would be so awesome, I can't get enough of them.
About CTTS.

I've since grown a bit bored of them. Any time that album wants to come out is okay with me too. >:

anticipation 08-26-2007 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Gentleman Johnny (Post 109361)
starstarstarstar!


some people were swearing
so i decided to be clever.

Laces Out Dan! 08-26-2007 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by _LesPaul43_ (Post 117585)
I wanna know what people have to say about Symphony X


Ahhh, Symphony X =)

Blain 08-26-2007 11:20 PM

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Hey guys, I'm new to this forum and it's kinda different to all my other ones im trying to insert my signature but, you can't use image codes on this forums so if you could help me that would be great, Thanks guys
My ones not interesting : (

adidasss 08-27-2007 03:42 AM

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the bravery ofcourse, i really don't understand the comparison between kaiser chiefs and franz ferdinand...kaiser chiefs r brit rock not new wave and have one great song..i predict a riot others dont come close...
but to move on i downloaded the latest hot hot heat album - elevator and i just couldn't help but to spread the word...EXELENTE..MUY EXELENTE!!!
the bravery are awsome..i would say slightly better that the killers cause they have more songs ( they each have one dodgy song in my opinion - the killers the last song and the bravery give in )..but hot hot heat.. not a single weaker song..fantastic...way better then the first one..i also like bloc party franz, the killers the arcade fire, interpol and the kings of leon...i can't belive how much great music im listening to in the last 3 months...i've discovered a new great band or album every week...its been crazy!!
>.>.....I don't know who this person is. :|

right-track 08-27-2007 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by right-track (Post 75877)
Also- days/autumn almanac/plastic man/victoria/david watts.

The Kinks are probably the most British of British bands and Ray Davies has to be one of the most original songwriters ever!

something like 11 UK top 20 hits in a space of only 3 years...awesome.

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sleepy jack 08-27-2007 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 391162)
>.>.....I don't know who this person is. :|

Yay, I can relate to someone on hating all their early posts!

adidasss 08-27-2007 03:59 AM

I'd like to erase the entire first year of my presence here. :[

You can chalk it down to being prepubescent, I have no excuse for being a complete retard. I swear, people grow up exponentially on-line.

MoonlitSunshine 08-27-2007 04:46 AM

Hahahahahaha, I'm loving Don's first post. It pretty much sums up everything you ever need to know about him...

as for my first post..

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Originally Posted by MoonlitSunshine (Post 254039)
Personally, Personally, I say, this is just my opinion, I think Radiohead are FAR the better band.

they're so versatile, Kid A and Amnesiac are vaguely similar, but all the rest are really different, and yet all amazing. as for live performance, have any of you ever seen radiohead live? It's not a performance to be missed by ANYONE's standards.

Guess the thread?

The Unfan 08-27-2007 06:09 AM

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Superb band, Gateway is a mind blowingly good album.
On Bongzilla. Not very interesting.

Laces Out Dan! 08-27-2007 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by MoonlitSunshine (Post 391173)
Hahahahahaha, I'm loving Don's first post. It pretty much sums up everything you ever need to know about him...

as for my first post..



Guess the thread?

Was that in the Muse vs Radiohead thread?

cardboard adolescent 08-27-2007 05:52 PM

In "What is your favorite punk band?"

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wasn't Jesus an arab? Whatever.

favorite punk band? pere ubu... too weird for punk.

fugazi? more alternative i guess.

i guess stiff little fingers at the moment although I think my love for old Bad Religion and the Stooges and dead kennedys will persevere. oh, and black flag/adolescents/agent orange/circle jerks are great too.

I cheated, didn't I?

(oh, and offspring were a punk band once.)

sal calypso 08-27-2007 07:25 PM

hey folk. i'm new here. i like prehistoric music and futuristic music, but nothing in between. will you is my friend?

anticipation 08-27-2007 07:31 PM

^ the antithesis of fal.

CAPTAIN CAVEMAN 08-27-2007 08:39 PM

prehistoric music lol.

Seltzer 08-27-2007 08:59 PM

In a Best Drummer thread:

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I agree that Ringo shouldn't be mentioned.

But Martin Lopez of Opeth is a great drummer. He has a lot more than the double bass blasting. I'm not a drummer, but his drumwork is always interesting. Grand Conjuration off their new album, has some of my favourite drumwork.

If you're after great metal drummers, I'd look at the latin/jazz trained/influenced ones such as Lopez. Jazz/Metal combo is cool.
I still agree with that.

sal calypso 08-27-2007 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by The-Starving-Artless (Post 391421)
prehistoric music lol.

haha. yeah, i think 97% of music sucks **** because nobody is willing to cleanse their minds of the last 100 years of popular music. so if you start approaching music from a cro-magnon point of view, thats when you start to get into some interesting stuff! can you dig on that, man? i make music myself and i can say that there is alot of influence from the 20th century in there, but my ultimate goal is to make an album devoid of any influence other than decent timing and the sun, the stars and the earth. maybe i'll get there and maybe i won't. thats just my take on the direction of good and modern music. we've always gone backwards, lets just take it way back! thanks for listening and please don't try to argue. there is no argument here.

DearJenny 08-28-2007 01:00 AM

My thoughts of Coheed and Cambria....

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Originally Posted by CityLightsLikeRain (Post 195641)
Yeah, Coheed is not emo AT ALL. Emo started out as a hardcore term for emotional music, it started out deep. Newer bands and their fans have tainted the term by calling it emo. I dont mind some of the new bands, but its when they, or mainly their fans, begin to call it emo that pisses me off.

But, to the point of the thread, my friend introduced them to me about a year and a half ago and up to this day I still hate Claudio's voice with a passion and I want to cut his hair. I saw a picture of the band and he had short hair, it really wasn't bad. But the music they create is great. Guitars are amazing(I believe they have 2, claudio and another, correct me if I'm wrong). But there are better bands out there.
~court~


DontRunMeOver 08-28-2007 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by swimintheundertow (Post 391036)
but epic members deserve epic first posts

Hahaha, Don was a absolute legend.

How do I find my first post? Will my user CP thingy go back that far?

sleepy jack 08-28-2007 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DontRunMeOver (Post 117862)
Hi, I''m new to this site but thought I'd give some input in addition to what's already been said on this post.

As well as being true/meaningful/insightful etc. with your lyrics, it can really help to throw in a few unique phrases to grab people's attention and keep them thinking. For example, saying "I love you" to somebody may be a very meaningful experience in everyday life but used within a song its generally going to be an unimaginative cliche. So you have to find another way to express these ideas, a new way which ideally uses words in a way which is rarely heard and which the listener or reader might appreciate you having brought to them.

Sorry I was just about to give examples, but I'm deing dragged off to lunch...

Later

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right-track 08-28-2007 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DontRunMeOver (Post 391577)
Hahaha, Don was a absolute legend.

Yes he was/is a true MusicBanter legend.

I only managed the first paragraph, before the word "cunt" entered my head.

Seltzer 08-28-2007 08:20 PM

Don was a real f*cking douchebag with his endless elitism and fellation over prog metal.

i get high sometimes 08-28-2007 10:08 PM

I loved him.

DearJenny 08-28-2007 11:08 PM

^Wait....were you here under another name?

Laces Out Dan! 08-28-2007 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CityLightsLikeRain (Post 391821)
^Wait....were you here under another name?

ZING!

DearJenny 08-28-2007 11:15 PM

^Yeah, I just read the active poster sign-in sheet thread and I now understand. It shows that people never change, despite the name, because I'm still annoyed.

Joke's on me guys. hahaha. Instead of deleting the post, I'll keep it up for laughs.

Laces Out Dan! 08-28-2007 11:25 PM

I Love Alex with all my E-heart.

Alexander the Grape 08-28-2007 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by sal calypso (Post 391440)
haha. yeah, i think 97% of music sucks **** because nobody is willing to cleanse their minds of the last 100 years of popular music. so if you start approaching music from a cro-magnon point of view, thats when you start to get into some interesting stuff! can you dig on that, man? i make music myself and i can say that there is alot of influence from the 20th century in there, but my ultimate goal is to make an album devoid of any influence other than decent timing and the sun, the stars and the earth. maybe i'll get there and maybe i won't. thats just my take on the direction of good and modern music. we've always gone backwards, lets just take it way back! thanks for listening and please don't try to argue. there is no argument here.

you just blew my ****ing mind

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Originally Posted by Alexander the Grape (Post 359610)
Wow, my first post here was gonna be to tell swimintheundertow that the link to their demo on that freewebs list was dead because of disuse, but it seems to be fixed now... Well, this is pretty awkward, I feel like even more of an ******* now.

By the way, you guys are gods for creating that list. It will probably save my life.

And needless to say I Wrote Haikus About Cannibalism in Your Yearbook are quite good as well.

that was about I Wrote Haikus About Cannibalism in Your Yearbook. I found this site while looking for a link to their demo.

and that list did save my life

jackhammer 08-29-2007 03:02 PM

My first post was a gate post I had to put in...I am on the right track here?

right-track 08-29-2007 05:13 PM

I certainly hope not!

:/

TheBig3 08-29-2007 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 391166)
I'd like to erase the entire first year of my presence here. :[

You can chalk it down to being prepubescent, I have no excuse for being a complete retard. I swear, people grow up exponentially on-line.

Yeah me too.

jackhammer 08-29-2007 06:22 PM

In all seriousness, I don't want to see my first post. Life is about continuation and experience. What you said a year ago may not be the views you hold dear now, but they are all building blocks in life.

I feel a lot of empathy to some of our younger posters on here. I was EXACTLY the same 15 years ago. The music may have changed, but the attitude was still there. I thought I knew everything and was open minded. No..I was a díck, and never appreciated others views.

I miss that youthful exuberance, which I see,and admire in so many posters on here.

All I can say is-keep it up!. I have been so determined not to be swallowed up by multinational coporations and try and hold onto some sort of semblance of identity. It's not easy sometimes, but we have to keep trying.

I'm sorry. I have rambled off topic,but hey! Maybe someone will listen!

The Dave 08-29-2007 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 392033)
In all seriousness, I don't want to see my first post. Life is about continuation and experience. What you said a year ago may not be the views you hold dear now, but they are all building blocks in life.

I feel a lot of empathy to some of our younger posters on here. I was EXACTLY the same 15 years ago. The music may have changed, but the attitude was still there. I thought I knew everything and was open minded. No..I was a díck, and never appreciated others views.

I miss that youthful exuberance, which I see,and admire in so many posters on here.

All I can say is-keep it up!. I have been so determined not to be swallowed up by multinational coporations and try and hold onto some sort of semblance of identity. It's not easy sometimes, but we have to keep trying.

I'm sorry. I have rambled off topic,but hey! Maybe someone will listen!

I actually just had to read a short story of sorts that was about keeping an open mind in every situation in life, so yeah, I'm listening.

cardboard adolescent 08-30-2007 12:19 AM

I've always been awesome.


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